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this is somewhere in the skies with ryan

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welcome guys to somewhere in the skies

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and we have a very very special guest

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joining us today on the show um for any

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of you who watch the late late show in

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the united states or uh possibly comedy

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bang bang one of my favorite shows as

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well um you will know him he is a

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musician a vocalist a beatboxer an

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improviser

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but you might also know him

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from the ufo world you'll know him as

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the person who asked two former u.s

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presidents about ufos literally a dream

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for any of us in this ufo world and he

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actually did it so we're going to talk

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all about those interviews with two

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former u.s presidents his thoughts and

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theories on ufos aliens and all that

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stuff and about his music as well so

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let's not waste any more time i'm going

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to bring them in right now here he is

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guys reggie watts welcome to summer in

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the skies

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it's good to be back

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i'm kidding um thanks yeah thanks for

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having me

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of course man but i love that i love

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that that was very ominous what a way to

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start a ufo podcast um hey well let's

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not really um i guess you know waste any

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time i want to know first and foremost

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um before we even get to these

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interviews you did with uh obama and

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with clinton um

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what got you interested in ufos what

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made you ask those questions on

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television um do you have kind of a

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story about what got you into this topic

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or what made you curious about asking

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about ufos yeah give us the origin story

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if you don't mind on that

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well i mean with obama he was on and uh

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it was during the period right after the

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pentagon released

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uh all the footage from the navy uh i

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think it was just all navy footage but

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uh all with the tic tac and the go fast

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and all that stuff so they just released

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all that

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and uh

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he was on the show

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you know obviously not in the building

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but on on the screen and i asked him

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i i well i had i had a feeling about

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asking about uh extraterrestrials for

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sure but then like i think

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the guy who takes care of our band the

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guy who kind of like gets stuff for our

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band whatever morgan bender he uh he was

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like i should ask him about ufos or

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whatever but i was kind of like bummed

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because i was like i was already gonna

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ask him and i didn't want someone to be

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like i took credit for asking for that

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you know whatever it's fine um but uh i

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was going to ask him anyways and so when

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it came time uh i just kind of was like

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you know how about dem aliens or

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whatever and uh

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i was just genuinely interested it was

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kind of a light-hearted question i

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to answer uh sincerely in the way that

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he does because i guess obama had never

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answered that question before

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that was kind of an interesting uh

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moment i didn't think about that at all

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i was just like i'm gonna ask him this

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shifty and you know whatever like how

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politicians do it but he just answers

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straight up i love that he was just you

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know and i was like

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and then i didn't expect it to get as

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big of a

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reaction online obviously

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obviously is like lived in the shadows

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and is like a weird borderline community

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because there's a whole spectrum of

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people involved in this community right

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and uh there are die-hard people there

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are people with personal experiences

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there are people uh who haven't had

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personal experiences but like really dig

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really deep into rabbit holes and things

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like that and um and if but in total

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that community tends to be marginalized

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and so i had so the reaction made sense

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in hindsight like that it would be so

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big like look what look with this guy he

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asked him look what you know and and

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because for me it was such an easy

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casual thing on stage should be like hey

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president obama what about them aliens

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and then not thinking about

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all those you know tens of thousands of

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people or you know millions of people

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that that are like

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yeah we've been wanting to hear

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something about this for a long time and

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you know this is so great to see this so

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did i really think about it in that way

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the second time with bill clinton

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it was the show runner that kind of like

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is like you want to ask him about aliens

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you know why not and uh

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uh and i can't remember his uh his

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answer but i think his answer is a

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little bit more vague

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um but uh yeah

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you know what i have the clips right

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here um i figure why don't we go ahead

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and play them and um we'll get your

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thoughts on the other side i've got

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clinton um

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right here on deck ready to go so let's

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just play that and yeah we'll see what

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he had to say when you asked about uh

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ufos

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yeah man so that was pretty cool um two

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things i want to kind of ask you about

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with that one um

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the first being uh arie51 like you you

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said skunk works i mean us in the ufo

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field know the lore the history behind

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this deeply you know

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secret military installation in nevada

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uh where supposedly um they

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work on ufos uh back engineering

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engineered craft um from recovered

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flying saucers stuff like that um

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do you have what are your thoughts on

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area 51 have you ever heard the stories

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about bob lazar the dude who said he

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worked there and all that what do you

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make of that whole mythology within the

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ufo world

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so i grew up uh

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during the age of uh the awareness of

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project blue book in fact there was a

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television show called project blue book

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and then there was also a show that many

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salvage one

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um which was about a team of engineers

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about them you know engineering this

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rocket and then eventually you know

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blasting off and going to space

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um but so there was a lot of and science

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off the tails of the 60s the 50s and the

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60s bringing science fiction to the

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imagination of so many people

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so hearing about roswell you know and

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that time with project blue book um and

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my fascination with alien abductions

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recounting their tales and with

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sightings and potential abductions and

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area 51 obviously like in the 90s i was

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radio and they would talk about you know

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things going on at area 51 and of course

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all the stories about you know well then

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knowing and also growing up on an air

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force base in great falls montana and

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malestrom air force base i had the good

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fortune of seeing

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the stealth coating up front and you

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like three feet away from an sr-71 as a

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kid just like with a small road

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different points of the airplane but to

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see that airplane one is still one of

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the fastest airplanes ever created um

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with that that coating that not not

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quite uh vanta black but uh you know on

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same tip as this kind of like it's a

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shadow you know on on the airfield or at

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many other amazing you know uh aerial

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craft and then also seeing like the blue

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angels come through uh and or the um

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uh the canadian version of the snowbirds

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like seeing snowbirds come through there

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and do all these aerial formations so i

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was absolutely fascinated with uh a

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aviation uh of all sorts but also aliens

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and science fiction and so area 51 i

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think is kind of a mix to me what i

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think area 51 is is a very long answer

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i think area 51 is is all things it's a

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little bit of everything i think that uh

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i think that like because because it's

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such a focal point and it's such a

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secretive place of course a ton of lore

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is going to be generated about it

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do i think a craft

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uh crashed uh

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possibly uh you know the thing is

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there's a couple angles that come coming

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at this and i know if that's something

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we can talk about later but like what is

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alien phenomena or what is

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what is the probability that they're

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doing this are they extraterrestrial or

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are they already here are they scout

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craft are they uh are they autonomous uh

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are they uh is it how does it have

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something to do with planet nibiru you

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know this is the ninth planet or the

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anunnaki coming back or like there's

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like so many uh

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are we time travelers are we visiting

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ourselves from from the future into the

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past are we trying to is this some kind

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of an experiment like a gardening

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experiment with like a slightly altered

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hominid species like there's there's

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there's all kinds of things out there

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that i

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hold a

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90 to 95 possibility margin for because

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i always leave a little the margin that

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i could be wrong because we don't

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[\h__\h] know

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for sure

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but i definitely lean more and like i've

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seen too many things i've personally

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seen ufo uh our uaps uh outside of great

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falls we can talk about that

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a little bit later but like i uh you

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know i've seen these things and i have

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friends that have seen seen things and

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experienced things so

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um

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yeah again area 51 i think is a little

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bit of like perhaps it was a an alien

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craft perhaps it was some kind of a

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craft uh and uh and i wouldn't doubt i

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mean it kind of makes sense it's like we

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made a technological jump in such a

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short period of time

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uh with

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stealth coatings propulsion systems um

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uh

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fields and how that affects machines and

324
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um you know just all kinds of things

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that were pretty rapidly developed and i

326
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don't know if they could you could

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explain it through an escalation of arms

328
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race um you could explain it through

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maybe there's a cosmic transmission of

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information that's out there that humans

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are able to tap into or they simply just

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had machines that they reverse

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engineered you know from the crowd

334
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i don't know but i'm just saying like

335
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i'm open to all the possibilities but i

336
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definitely think it's more than just

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some people some engineers going like

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this would be a cool thing i think it's

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a little bit more

340
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i love that man yeah yeah and who's to

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say it's not all three in some way shape

342
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or form we truly don't know what these

343
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ufos represent there's probably a

344
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million explanations for for each and

345
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every one they're each you know as

346
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unique as a snowflake i guess but um

347
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well

348
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you know you bring up another good point

349
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too is um

350
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well first of all i gotta ask you about

351
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your ufo sighting we'll definitely get

352
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to that um maelstrom air force base are

353
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you familiar with the incident that

354
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happened there the nuclear

355
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incident yeah the one across washington

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idaho montana and i believe north dakota

357
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yeah yeah and then there was another

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incident i think um

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where

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like came over and shut off the nukes at

361
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some point have you ever heard that oh

362
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yeah yeah was that was that was that

363
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mouse room uh yeah because i remember

364
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that yeah there was a yeah the the story

365
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of yeah ufos appearing over a silo yeah

366
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turning

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i think

368
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yeah turning off and then turning on the

369
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system

370
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yeah i i actually spoke to um

371
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a gentleman named robert dallas he was

372
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the dude in charge of uh the weapons

373
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that day and oh wow dude he said like it

374
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was the scariest moment of his whole

375
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career like he thought this is the end

376
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you know wore over um we all lose and uh

377
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it's a pretty crazy story i i definitely

378
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i think people should check it out if

379
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you're not familiar with that guys

380
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from air force base yeah i loved hearing

381
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that story because

382
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you know if anything if you want to like

383
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just say like okay let's say it's

384
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extraterrestrials

385
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i do love i mean there's two

386
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explanations right there's like well

387
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there's three explanations one they were

388
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tripping and they don't know what the

389
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[\h__\h] they're talking about which i just

390
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don't believe because military people

391
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uh

392
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it's not easy for them to come forward

393
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and yes there's going to be some people

394
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they take advantage of the fact that

395
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they're in the military and they're

396
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going to just want to like have some

397
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sensational you know whatever excitement

398
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around something that they're saying

399
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and there could be some fibbing going on

400
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there but i'd say in general those

401
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people tend to not

402
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they don't really [\h__\h] around that much

403
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and when they get

404
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afraid when they're scared of something

405
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that happens

406
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generally it impacts them in a pretty

407
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traumatic way because they're used to

408
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things being in such a structured

409
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ordered way when something when an

410
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anomaly occurs they they really

411
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that really affects them i i i would

412
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think especially when you're in a bunker

413
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you're deep like in a bunker in your

414
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control you're in you know you're like

415
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the person who authorizes you know who

416
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actually mechanically makes sure that

417
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those missiles go off those icbms go off

418
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uh

419
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it's just a position i don't think like

420
00:14:56,470 --> 00:14:55,279
you'd want to [\h__\h] around with and you

421
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have a career in the military and you

422
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don't want to lose your tricare medical

423
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coverage like this there's a lot of

424
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stuff going on on there but um so i

425
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would i would i believe it and i think

426
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that the other two explanations is one

427
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uh there's some extraterrestrial or some

428
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unexplained phenomena there's something

429
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that appeared over there and just flexed

430
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and said

431
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we can turn the [\h__\h] off

432
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we can turn this [\h__\h] on

433
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basically

434
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get your [\h__\h] together this isn't the

435
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priority

436
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that to me is the message this is not

437
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the priority and then

438
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the other explanation of course is that

439
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it's our technology and that we're just

440
00:15:36,310 --> 00:15:34,399
kind of testing it you know it's like

441
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hey let's just send these these vehicles

442
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and have them send out an emp

443
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whatever and then like see if that works

444
00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:41,920
and like oh yeah and it scared the [\h__\h]

445
00:15:46,389 --> 00:15:44,800
out of these dudes it works i don't i

446
00:15:48,470 --> 00:15:46,399
mean that's i

447
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a little less likely i don't know i

448
00:15:51,910 --> 00:15:50,160
would also i would say opposition too is

449
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probably most likely

450
00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:54,399
yeah it is an interesting theory you

451
00:15:57,829 --> 00:15:56,320
know we do often hear

452
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you know the

453
00:16:01,990 --> 00:16:00,240
the government with the capital g when

454
00:16:05,509 --> 00:16:02,000
they hear that people are saying oh

455
00:16:07,910 --> 00:16:05,519
aliens crash or aliens were seen uh over

456
00:16:09,590 --> 00:16:07,920
this this installation let the public

457
00:16:12,310 --> 00:16:09,600
think it's aliens just just let them

458
00:16:14,470 --> 00:16:12,320
think that you know it is an interesting

459
00:16:15,829 --> 00:16:14,480
game i think we play with uh

460
00:16:17,350 --> 00:16:15,839
intelligence

461
00:16:20,470 --> 00:16:17,360
agencies and whatnot when it comes to

462
00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:20,480
all this so yeah you do have to wonder

463
00:16:25,030 --> 00:16:22,959
um well what

464
00:16:26,870 --> 00:16:25,040
what do you think about clinton when it

465
00:16:28,790 --> 00:16:26,880
comes to ufo stretching i mean we know

466
00:16:31,749 --> 00:16:28,800
that hillary was really interested

467
00:16:33,509 --> 00:16:31,759
podesta was obviously very interested i

468
00:16:34,470 --> 00:16:33,519
think he tweeted you know his biggest

469
00:16:36,949 --> 00:16:34,480
regret

470
00:16:39,189 --> 00:16:36,959
um when he was working with the clintons

471
00:16:41,749 --> 00:16:39,199
was that he did not get the information

472
00:16:44,870 --> 00:16:41,759
out to the public about ufos um which is

473
00:16:47,990 --> 00:16:44,880
crazy um you know and i know hillary

474
00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:48,000
uh was working with uh the rockefellers

475
00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:50,160
and they were looking into ufos and

476
00:16:54,629 --> 00:16:52,240
there's all these crazy conspiracy

477
00:16:56,629 --> 00:16:54,639
theories out there um but when you strip

478
00:16:58,470 --> 00:16:56,639
away kind of those layers of the

479
00:17:00,870 --> 00:16:58,480
conspiracy theories and just look at it

480
00:17:03,110 --> 00:17:00,880
um there's no doubt the clintons

481
00:17:06,870 --> 00:17:03,120
probably got closer than anyone when it

482
00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:06,880
came to this ufo topic um do you think

483
00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:10,240
they know more than what you know

484
00:17:13,429 --> 00:17:11,760
bill kind of

485
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portrayed when you interviewed him on

486
00:17:16,549 --> 00:17:15,039
the late late show do you think he knows

487
00:17:18,309 --> 00:17:16,559
more than he's telling the public on all

488
00:17:20,150 --> 00:17:18,319
this

489
00:17:21,429 --> 00:17:20,160
man it's so hard to say

490
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um

491
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i mean it's

492
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i guess you know people think that the i

493
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don't know presidents have like

494
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more power than they actually do like

495
00:17:32,470 --> 00:17:30,720
they don't they don't really have as

496
00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:32,480
much access as people like to think that

497
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they have access to um it's not like i'm

498
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president tell me all the secrets like

499
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like

500
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things are partitioned and

501
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compartmentalized you know you know on

502
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purpose so that we maintain an edge you

503
00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:47,360
know in our defense or offensive or

504
00:17:51,909 --> 00:17:50,240
defensive strategy militarily so

505
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i you know i would believe that he

506
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wouldn't be shown everything she

507
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wouldn't be shown everything um

508
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but obviously you're around a lot of

509
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people

510
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that

511
00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:03,760
you know have different levels of like

512
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how well they can keep a secret

513
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so

514
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uh

515
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i'm sure there's

516
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i'm sure that they know more

517
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than they're letting on but i'm

518
00:18:19,110 --> 00:18:17,039
also

519
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certain that

520
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they don't know all of it

521
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so i i

522
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i think it's something like that i think

523
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that he definitely knows more i think

524
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he's probably talked if he's that

525
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interested he's asked a lot of questions

526
00:18:32,950 --> 00:18:31,039
because

527
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how can you not you know like when

528
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you're you know you're like the

529
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president of the united states you've

530
00:18:40,830 --> 00:18:38,799
had an interest in ufos for a long time

531
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uh and uh or

532
00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:43,679
uaps and

533
00:18:47,350 --> 00:18:45,360
oh yeah how would you not how would you

534
00:18:49,110 --> 00:18:47,360
just lose that curiosity it just doesn't

535
00:18:50,549 --> 00:18:49,120
go away this is when you're presented

536
00:18:52,150 --> 00:18:50,559
with the opportunity to know more it's

537
00:18:53,669 --> 00:18:52,160
like just being a human being and we're

538
00:18:55,750 --> 00:18:53,679
all curious creatures like we want to

539
00:18:58,470 --> 00:18:55,760
know more about stuff

540
00:18:59,830 --> 00:18:58,480
and won't settle for just like well you

541
00:19:01,029 --> 00:18:59,840
can't really tell you about that you

542
00:19:02,549 --> 00:19:01,039
know you're going to keep digging you're

543
00:19:03,750 --> 00:19:02,559
going to keep asking like you know you

544
00:19:05,190 --> 00:19:03,760
meet someone and you're like yeah or

545
00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:05,200
they used to be with project blue book

546
00:19:08,549 --> 00:19:06,720
did you have any opinions on so you know

547
00:19:09,909 --> 00:19:08,559
whatever that's going to happen so i'm

548
00:19:11,430 --> 00:19:09,919
sure they do know more but i don't think

549
00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:11,440
they know everything i don't think that

550
00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:12,559
they know

551
00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:15,360
definitive stuff necessarily

552
00:19:19,590 --> 00:19:17,280
that's a good point you know presidents

553
00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:19,600
are temporary so you know can you trust

554
00:19:24,789 --> 00:19:22,080
them with all the information once they

555
00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:24,799
leave office i i don't know you know um

556
00:19:28,150 --> 00:19:26,320
especially when they get up there on

557
00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:28,160
their death beds and they're like you

558
00:19:32,870 --> 00:19:30,160
know you never know they're gonna pull

559
00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:32,880
the trigger and and say yes you know

560
00:19:36,630 --> 00:19:34,480
aliens crashed in roswell we've been

561
00:19:37,669 --> 00:19:36,640
covering it up um yeah i don't know i

562
00:19:40,549 --> 00:19:37,679
don't think that's a chance they're

563
00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:40,559
willing to take in my opinion i i i

564
00:19:48,150 --> 00:19:45,750
a little more

565
00:19:50,070 --> 00:19:48,160
i think he's a really smart dude and i

566
00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:50,080
mean clinton's a smart dude too but he's

567
00:19:54,070 --> 00:19:52,720
a little bit more aloof in a way maybe

568
00:19:55,350 --> 00:19:54,080
that's his persona his personal

569
00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:55,360
projection but

570
00:19:59,190 --> 00:19:57,039
obama

571
00:20:01,270 --> 00:19:59,200
i get a sense that he definitely knows a

572
00:20:03,110 --> 00:20:01,280
lot more because he wanted the what he

573
00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:03,120
said was like

574
00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:05,039
i mean it's not really information we

575
00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:07,360
haven't heard heard of really the way

576
00:20:12,070 --> 00:20:09,120
he's saying it but the fact that he's

577
00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:12,080
saying it is important um but i also

578
00:20:15,669 --> 00:20:14,080
think he knows

579
00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:15,679
a lot more whether it's like these are

580
00:20:19,029 --> 00:20:17,520
special weapons programs

581
00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:19,039
this could be like

582
00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:24,240
stuff you know it's like this could be

583
00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:25,679
um

584
00:20:28,390 --> 00:20:27,360
whatever the next stealth bomber like

585
00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:28,400
you know we're talking about sixth

586
00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:30,559
generation fighters you know we're you

587
00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:32,720
know we're talking about autonomous uh

588
00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:34,159
or you know we're talking about uh

589
00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:36,240
there's technologies that people believe

590
00:20:40,710 --> 00:20:38,000
that they're creating plasmic fields to

591
00:20:42,549 --> 00:20:40,720
create a false radar signature you're

592
00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:42,559
able to project plasmid fields which is

593
00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:44,320
kind of like oh

594
00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:46,080
that's interesting it creates a physical

595
00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:48,400
presence it shows up on radar is that

596
00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:50,240
what we could possibly be seeing with

597
00:20:53,350 --> 00:20:51,760
the go fast and the tic-tac and stuff

598
00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:53,360
like that is that some of that plasmic

599
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:55,440
projection technology is that why it can

600
00:20:58,470 --> 00:20:56,640
go

601
00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:58,480
from air to water at the same rate of

602
00:21:01,830 --> 00:21:00,240
speed because it's not really truly a

603
00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:01,840
physical thing but you know who who

604
00:21:05,590 --> 00:21:03,679
knows i i don't know but like you know i

605
00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:05,600
have a feeling that he knows more than

606
00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:08,640
clinton would necessarily interesting

607
00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:10,880
well you know you mentioned obama and

608
00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:12,559
his thoughts let's go ahead and play the

609
00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:14,320
other clip reggie and get your thoughts

610
00:21:19,270 --> 00:21:17,440
on the other side on that um i'll go

611
00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:19,280
i don't know that i feel like he was the

612
00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:21,520
one deflecting there i mean he like got

613
00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:23,600
he got serious for a second yeah and

614
00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:25,120
then he turned it on you and started

615
00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:26,720
going with the comedy what do you think

616
00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:29,200
well you could see you could see that he

617
00:21:35,029 --> 00:21:32,400
was trying to discern like

618
00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:35,039
decide like how much he should say

619
00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:37,039
and how he should say it

620
00:21:40,870 --> 00:21:39,440
um there was this like a lot of like

621
00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:40,880
what should i because he wanted to say

622
00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:43,600
more but he wanted to say

623
00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:45,520
you know as much as he could i guess i

624
00:21:49,029 --> 00:21:47,120
don't know but there was definitely it

625
00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:49,039
felt that there was this

626
00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:51,039
feeling of uh

627
00:21:55,909 --> 00:21:53,280
yeah just like he wanted to say more

628
00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:55,919
than he you know than he was able to say

629
00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:57,120
for sure

630
00:22:01,909 --> 00:21:59,600
yeah i know um which is really

631
00:22:03,669 --> 00:22:01,919
interesting because you know um obama

632
00:22:04,950 --> 00:22:03,679
was around when

633
00:22:07,990 --> 00:22:04,960
supposedly

634
00:22:10,149 --> 00:22:08,000
this a tip program was going on yeah so

635
00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:10,159
you do have to wonder you mentioned

636
00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:11,760
project blue book earlier i'd love to

637
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:13,679
get your thoughts on this to kind of

638
00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:16,799
wrap up the presidents and ufos um yeah

639
00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:19,120
between project blue book you know that

640
00:22:24,630 --> 00:22:22,559
ended i believe it was in 1969 they said

641
00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:24,640
there's nothing to see here we can

642
00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:25,760
explain

643
00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:28,159
almost all of these things and um

644
00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:30,159
they're not posing a threat to national

645
00:22:34,390 --> 00:22:32,080
security so we're not going to look into

646
00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:34,400
it anymore and then they said we're done

647
00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:36,880
investigating ufos the us air force is

648
00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:38,240
done doing this

649
00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:40,240
and then we come to learn that there was

650
00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:42,320
actually a secret pentagon program

651
00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:45,039
called at that had been running now

652
00:22:48,630 --> 00:22:46,480
do you think

653
00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:48,640
between that gap between blue book and

654
00:22:53,830 --> 00:22:51,760
atip there was all this weird ufo x-file

655
00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:53,840
stuff still going on in the government

656
00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:56,880
or truly was this you know decades-long

657
00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:58,960
gap between uh investigating ufos with

658
00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:01,280
the us government

659
00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:02,880
that's uh yeah i mean i just can't

660
00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:04,000
imagine them

661
00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:06,159
you know stuff like

662
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:07,360
i don't know just going like yeah we

663
00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:08,640
know all the answers all this is

664
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:10,240
explainable we're done i don't think

665
00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:11,600
that that's true i think that there's

666
00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:13,600
probably an organization that just

667
00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:16,159
continues collecting these stories um

668
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:18,000
and they keep archiving them and like

669
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:19,679
putting them in different categories and

670
00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:21,039
just so they have all the information

671
00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:22,880
maybe there was like a gap in like an

672
00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:25,679
actual official department that analyzed

673
00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:27,840
the information that uh went and

674
00:23:31,669 --> 00:23:30,799
investigated the information perhaps

675
00:23:33,669 --> 00:23:31,679
um

676
00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:33,679
but the fact that

677
00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:34,720
you know

678
00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:39,440
this guy coming out and saying

679
00:23:42,950 --> 00:23:41,520
ate it i was ahead of it blah blah blah

680
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:42,960
you know and no one's denying it it was

681
00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:44,640
an actual thing it's in the black budget

682
00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:47,120
you know whatever it was part of that

683
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:49,039
funding and so forth

684
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:53,360
but also you know it's the government so

685
00:23:57,590 --> 00:23:55,840
you just don't know like is it like

686
00:23:58,710 --> 00:23:57,600
convenient timing they're releasing this

687
00:24:00,630 --> 00:23:58,720
stuff is there a reason they're

688
00:24:01,830 --> 00:24:00,640
releasing this information like are they

689
00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:01,840
is there

690
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:04,240
a reason they're you know corroborating

691
00:24:07,510 --> 00:24:06,320
these stories from naval navy fighter

692
00:24:08,950 --> 00:24:07,520
pilots is

693
00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:08,960
you know radar technicians all that

694
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:10,080
stuff like

695
00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:11,840
there's there's that too there's that

696
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:14,559
side of it it sucks because it's like i

697
00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:17,120
don't i'm not naturally a conspiracy

698
00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:19,200
person but i'm definitely a rationalist

699
00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:21,360
and we also know

700
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:23,840
as human beings as just having a circle

701
00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:26,240
of friends or a crew of people when you

702
00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:28,320
were growing up just like the behavior

703
00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:30,320
doesn't change human behavior is human

704
00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:31,679
behavior and if people want to keep

705
00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:33,520
stuff secret if they want to keep a myth

706
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:35,360
going or if they want to project

707
00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:37,120
something they want to keep a certain

708
00:24:42,230 --> 00:24:40,000
air about things they craft

709
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:42,240
you know this informational techniques

710
00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:44,080
in order to keep us thinking you know

711
00:24:47,669 --> 00:24:46,480
and keep keep us guessing so

712
00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:47,679
and you know some people say like

713
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:50,880
alexander is a a plant that he's a

714
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:52,960
little bit of a shill but he's like kind

715
00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:55,440
of you know running interference in the

716
00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:57,679
community because there are ufos you

717
00:25:02,070 --> 00:25:01,200
know experts that are kind of refute his

718
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:02,080
um

719
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:03,919
i don't know his like

720
00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:05,039
intention

721
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:09,600
hard to say i think that there's

722
00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:10,880
definitely data collection the whole

723
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:12,880
time obviously any any story it just

724
00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:15,440
kind of like got brought in and got put

725
00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:16,880
into its category and they just keep

726
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:18,720
building that library of experience and

727
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:19,520
then

728
00:25:23,430 --> 00:25:21,440
some of it can be explained because they

729
00:25:25,029 --> 00:25:23,440
were running programs in a certain area

730
00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:25,039
at that time so they can like well that

731
00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:26,880
that gets nixed out we were running like

732
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:29,520
whatever these like high speed whatever

733
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:31,840
drone things like that's not us that's

734
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:33,840
not us that's definitely not us that's

735
00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:34,880
interesting

736
00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:36,559
but we don't have a record of that you

737
00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:38,320
know i'm sure that doing that

738
00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:41,039
at least yeah or we're doing that

739
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:42,880
yeah good point good point you know and

740
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:45,279
they keep saying you know it's not

741
00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:47,679
russia it's not china it's not these

742
00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:50,240
other superpowers who are trying to keep

743
00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:52,880
up with u.s technology but um and then

744
00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:55,039
they're saying it's not ours so you know

745
00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:57,760
i know what is it what is it that's not

746
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:00,640
a good question i i you know it's it's

747
00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:03,840
funny to me because it's like

748
00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:05,520
i don't know man you know i've been

749
00:26:09,430 --> 00:26:06,880
listening to a lot of uh i've been

750
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:09,440
listening this uh book uh

751
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:12,320
by um well i guess it's is it a

752
00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:13,679
compendium

753
00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:15,679
or is it a collection

754
00:26:22,830 --> 00:26:16,640
it's

755
00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:22,840
chronicles yeah

756
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:25,360
zechariah uh

757
00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:26,880
and i've always been interested in

758
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:29,120
ancient alien um

759
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:33,039
theories uh just because of the rapid uh

760
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:36,400
escalation escalation of or evolution of

761
00:26:40,870 --> 00:26:38,400
our species just like happening you know

762
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:40,880
you see that that that upward trend and

763
00:26:45,909 --> 00:26:42,880
then suddenly it just goes

764
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:45,919
you know like away from the expected

765
00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:48,640
evolutionary curve we just like took a

766
00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:50,240
almost a 180.

767
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:53,840
um a 1 30. uh and uh

768
00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:55,600
and and it suddenly developed like you

769
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:57,440
know then there's like sumer which just

770
00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:00,240
appeared out of nowhere you know like

771
00:27:04,470 --> 00:27:02,720
like oh here's here's or if you want to

772
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:04,480
say how they say they would have said it

773
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:06,240
would have been schumer but uh but so

774
00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:08,320
like consumer appears out of nowhere

775
00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:11,440
there's like roads libraries uh you know

776
00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:13,360
there's educational systems there's

777
00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:15,679
taxes there's trade there's commerce

778
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:17,840
there's money just out of nowhere we

779
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:19,440
just suddenly have all this stuff

780
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,360
plumbing

781
00:27:26,390 --> 00:27:23,760
and uh and then all of our tales are

782
00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:26,400
built off of these these

783
00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:27,200
you know

784
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:30,000
uh these stories these uh i guess uh

785
00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:32,080
human origin human uh cultural human

786
00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:34,320
civilization stories they get borrowed

787
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,159
so you get like these you know you get

788
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:38,559
um a rich kagal the you know the the

789
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:40,080
goddess of the underworld and that turns

790
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,679
into whoever that turns into for the

791
00:27:45,669 --> 00:27:43,440
acadians and the assyrians and then you

792
00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:45,679
get to like egypt and you have anubis

793
00:27:50,630 --> 00:27:48,880
and you have cairo for for the greeks uh

794
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:50,640
and you know hades

795
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:52,240
for the romans and it's like all these

796
00:27:56,630 --> 00:27:54,960
like borrowed tales from way way back

797
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:56,640
then but before then there wasn't

798
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:58,159
anything so

799
00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:00,240
it's there's a lot of like

800
00:28:03,909 --> 00:28:02,559
interesting questions and also in the

801
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:03,919
bible there there

802
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:06,000
there are stories and and other other

803
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:07,600
ancient texts but there are there's

804
00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:09,840
stories of these lights in the skies and

805
00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:12,320
these formations that match the

806
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:13,760
description of things that people are

807
00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:17,039
still seeing have been seeing since

808
00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:19,760
well since then really um and then then

809
00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:21,440
you have to ask the question well these

810
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:23,600
are similar light formations and similar

811
00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:25,200
similar phenomena that human beings have

812
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:26,880
experienced have been experienced

813
00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:28,720
experiencing for hundreds of years or

814
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:30,399
thousands of years

815
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:33,120
and only now could we say oh that was

816
00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:34,559
could have been a drone

817
00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:36,000
you know that that could have been like

818
00:28:38,789 --> 00:28:37,600
some weird experimental aircraft or

819
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:38,799
that's a weather balloon or whatever

820
00:28:43,510 --> 00:28:41,279
because those things didn't exist

821
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:43,520
whatever 120 years ago we didn't have

822
00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:44,720
any of these things that you could say

823
00:28:48,389 --> 00:28:46,720
oh that's what it is it's it's modern

824
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:48,399
technology so then how do you account

825
00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:51,039
for similar sightings for thousands of

826
00:28:55,510 --> 00:28:53,360
years and then suddenly be like well now

827
00:28:57,990 --> 00:28:55,520
it's these things like has it always

828
00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:58,000
been those things has always been drones

829
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:00,159
has it always been weather balloons has

830
00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:02,480
it always been saturn or jupiter

831
00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:03,440
you know

832
00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:04,880
yeah yeah

833
00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:06,720
such a good point you know you look at

834
00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:09,360
um this idea of the cargo cult you know

835
00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:10,320
when a

836
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:12,320
a civilization

837
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:16,000
has no idea any frame of reference at

838
00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:18,240
what they're looking at in the sky let's

839
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:20,399
say it was a whatever

840
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:23,440
a b-29 bomber that went over

841
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:25,200
their island and they've never seen a

842
00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:27,039
plane before and then boom a new

843
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:28,960
religion starts after they see this

844
00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:31,279
thing in the sky so you truly do have to

845
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:32,880
wonder these different cultures

846
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:35,760
throughout history um who have these

847
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:38,559
quote unquote ufo sightings you know

848
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:40,399
what springs up with that what beliefs

849
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:42,480
come from that and and what do the what

850
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:44,799
does it truly represent did it want to

851
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:48,000
be seen and started a religion or um is

852
00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:50,320
that just by human condition i i don't

853
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:53,200
know it is fascinating though it is

854
00:29:56,950 --> 00:29:55,760
yeah i i i love it and and you know and

855
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:56,960
then when you go back and you just look

856
00:30:01,110 --> 00:29:58,559
at the evidence of you know past

857
00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:01,120
societies you know you look at the

858
00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:02,240
the uh

859
00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:04,000
the pyramids you know and of course the

860
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:05,600
argument like you can't get razor blade

861
00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:08,480
between some of those you know 30 ton

862
00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:10,960
40 ton you're like how did human beings

863
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:12,720
have the time the initiative the

864
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:14,320
technology you know to build these

865
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:15,760
things and the fact that there were no

866
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:17,919
bodies discovered in any of the you know

867
00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:19,840
the great pyramids except for was it

868
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:21,039
khufu

869
00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:22,559
was found in one

870
00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:25,039
uh in the center think you're right uh

871
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:27,600
you have to brush up on my history

872
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:29,600
yeah but that was like the only one all

873
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:31,360
the rest of them were empty there and

874
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:33,279
there were no carvings there was a sorry

875
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:35,440
no hieroglyphs no pictographs like

876
00:30:39,669 --> 00:30:36,640
anywhere

877
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:39,679
uh inside of these structures um and

878
00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:42,960
then when one was found it was a forgery

879
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:45,120
uh that this guy wanted to claim that he

880
00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:46,960
had found the grave of something blah

881
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:48,399
blah blah then they found that that was

882
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:49,679
actually a forgery and there was a

883
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:51,919
family of the person who claimed it that

884
00:30:56,870 --> 00:30:55,440
said yes it was definitely forgery um so

885
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:56,880
you know what were these pyramids what

886
00:31:01,590 --> 00:30:58,799
were they used for why are there similar

887
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:01,600
structures in egypt and uh you know

888
00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:04,720
central america um why

889
00:31:09,269 --> 00:31:06,320
you know do we have these pictures of

890
00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:09,279
these it's either like human imagination

891
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:10,159
like

892
00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:14,159
what if the soul could be carried on the

893
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:16,880
back of a flying eagle you know like or

894
00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:19,200
the buzzard you know with glowing eyes

895
00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:21,600
like is it just us having some mushroom

896
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:23,200
trips going like man what if the

897
00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:24,799
universe was crazy and then we're just

898
00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:26,559
like making these stories

899
00:31:29,510 --> 00:31:27,440
or

900
00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:29,520
are they based off of real things that

901
00:31:35,510 --> 00:31:31,600
occurred you know are they you know the

902
00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:35,520
fact that elohim or yahweh is a plural

903
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:37,919
name not a singular name not there

904
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:39,760
wasn't a monotheism back in the early

905
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:41,360
days it talked about a system or the

906
00:31:44,789 --> 00:31:42,880
hierarchy of gods

907
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:44,799
and uh that these gods were called like

908
00:31:48,549 --> 00:31:46,640
the gods the god of creation god of

909
00:31:51,029 --> 00:31:48,559
heaven and earth the god of water blah

910
00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:51,039
blah blah blah um were these actual

911
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:52,399
beings

912
00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:54,640
were they uh you know were we a work

913
00:31:58,149 --> 00:31:56,480
race that were created by you know

914
00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:58,159
manipulating uh

915
00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:01,200
uh you know genetic or genetic code uh

916
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:02,960
is it something like alien like in the

917
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:05,440
beginning of that last alien whatever

918
00:32:08,549 --> 00:32:06,720
covenant movie where the guy's like

919
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:08,559
pouring his like he's giving up his dna

920
00:32:13,909 --> 00:32:11,039
into the waters of the earth in order to

921
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:13,919
like create a new hominin species you

922
00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:16,320
know i don't know but it's it's possible

923
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:18,799
but then i can go one step

924
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:21,120
i can go one step further back than that

925
00:32:26,149 --> 00:32:23,440
um which

926
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:26,159
is more is i think kind of fun a little

927
00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:28,399
bit more fun please yeah

928
00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:31,840
oh well sure so basically like

929
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:33,840
the idea of consciousness itself like

930
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:37,200
what is consciousness and uh and is

931
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:38,640
consciousness is it a collective

932
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:39,840
consciousness are we living in a

933
00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:42,080
holographic con a collective conscious

934
00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:43,679
universe this is some kind of a

935
00:32:46,389 --> 00:32:45,279
simulation of sorts without it and

936
00:32:47,909 --> 00:32:46,399
without necessarily thinking about

937
00:32:49,830 --> 00:32:47,919
computers and the matrix and everything

938
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:49,840
like something a simulation of sorts

939
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:50,640
like

940
00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:52,240
consciousness running the game of

941
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:54,240
consciousness in order to strengthen the

942
00:32:59,350 --> 00:32:56,399
idea of consciousness and awareness and

943
00:33:02,149 --> 00:32:59,360
in which case if that's if that's true

944
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:02,159
in all possibilities as as as we learn

945
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:03,440
in physics at least you know

946
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:05,200
theoretically we talk about many worlds

947
00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:07,840
multiple dimensions uh variable variable

948
00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:09,760
possibilities choose your own adventure

949
00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:12,480
style like if you know whatever the

950
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:14,399
you know me choosing this leads to this

951
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:16,240
leads to that blah blah blah but all the

952
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:18,000
possibilities exist simultaneously on

953
00:33:22,789 --> 00:33:20,240
the horizon then we have to go back and

954
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:22,799
think well the idea of extraterrestrials

955
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:25,039
is highly likely but also in a way

956
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:28,159
that's more fantastic than just

957
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:30,480
craft and beings inside of craft

958
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:32,640
influencing our society

959
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:34,000
it's more like

960
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:36,960
it's just the possibility of

961
00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:39,760
of that occurring is very high because

962
00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:41,919
essentially history doesn't exist as we

963
00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:43,760
move forward like all of that stuff is

964
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:44,960
just they're just memories that are

965
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:47,200
collectively sewn together to explain

966
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:49,120
where we are in the present moment as

967
00:33:53,830 --> 00:33:51,120
we're experiencing reality in real time

968
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:53,840
so if i think of it that way then yeah

969
00:33:57,750 --> 00:33:55,760
of course there's like whether we're

970
00:33:59,350 --> 00:33:57,760
receiving you know where let's say back

971
00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:59,360
in back in the day you're receiving

972
00:34:01,350 --> 00:34:00,480
ideas

973
00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:01,360
from

974
00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:03,279
another version of ourselves that has a

975
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:05,279
higher awareness and we're able to glean

976
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:07,120
some of that and put it into our current

977
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:09,520
reality and make an advancement of sorts

978
00:34:13,909 --> 00:34:12,000
whether it's that um consciousness

979
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:13,919
communicating over fast you know

980
00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:16,159
distances in order to like

981
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:18,320
influence itself just for the sake of

982
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:20,639
influencing itself i don't know well i

983
00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:22,320
mean that's obviously getting kind of

984
00:34:25,990 --> 00:34:23,919
very esoteric but i do like thinking of

985
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:26,000
it that way because then it means that

986
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:27,760
anything is possible

987
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:29,760
and not to take away from

988
00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:31,679
anybody's experience like

989
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:33,679
you know an abduction experience or you

990
00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:35,599
know coming into contact with exotic

991
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:37,440
materials or seeing something that

992
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:39,440
definitely is not explainable with a

993
00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:40,960
with a bunch of people

994
00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:43,359
it just kind of it proves that that's

995
00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:46,079
possible you know that that is a reality

996
00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:47,760
that we are collectively deciding the

997
00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:49,280
reality that we that we want to be

998
00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:51,760
experiencing at all times

999
00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:54,240
interesting yeah yeah i really like that

1000
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:57,680
that thought experiment um yeah well i i

1001
00:35:01,109 --> 00:34:59,040
heard you once

1002
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:01,119
reggie say uh

1003
00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:03,280
that ghosts actually we're going

1004
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:05,280
paranormal now ghosts are like a

1005
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:06,320
temporal

1006
00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:09,839
anomaly and i absolutely love that that

1007
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:12,480
phrase in terms of you know in the ufo

1008
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:14,560
world we've had people come forward and

1009
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:17,359
say that as well you know beyond reality

1010
00:35:23,829 --> 00:35:20,640
consciousness but um time and space that

1011
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:23,839
maybe these ufos represent

1012
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:26,880
time travelers um you know or

1013
00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:27,680
these

1014
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:31,119
little grey alien beings you know very

1015
00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:34,160
androgynous and small bodies big heads

1016
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:35,599
you know maybe their brains got bigger

1017
00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:38,480
bodies got smaller and this is a version

1018
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:39,680
of us

1019
00:35:43,910 --> 00:35:42,000
in like what three five hundred a

1020
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:43,920
thousand years from now and they're

1021
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:45,760
coming back to see what we once were

1022
00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:47,520
what do you make of that whole

1023
00:35:51,670 --> 00:35:49,920
theory of ufos and aliens being time

1024
00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:51,680
travelers

1025
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:54,960
i i love it i'm a huge time traveler fan

1026
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,640
like my whole existence is based off of

1027
00:36:01,670 --> 00:36:00,560
experiencing time travel or what what i

1028
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:01,680
like to call

1029
00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:04,400
artificial time travel um whether it's

1030
00:36:08,069 --> 00:36:06,400
you know going into a vr simulation or

1031
00:36:10,829 --> 00:36:08,079
whether it's telling stories with one

1032
00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:10,839
another um or whether it's

1033
00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:12,400
um

1034
00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:13,839
you know uh

1035
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:15,680
visiting somewhere and not having

1036
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:17,200
immediate access to your normal

1037
00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:18,800
technology that tells you where you are

1038
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:20,480
in time and then you kind of have like

1039
00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:22,320
this weird flash of like was this was

1040
00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:24,480
this what 1993 was like you know

1041
00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:27,920
whatever so i'm a huge i'm a huge

1042
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:29,920
lover of time travel and the possibility

1043
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:31,359
of time travel i think it's a very

1044
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:34,160
fantastic thing i think that again it's

1045
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:36,400
totally possible because

1046
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:38,480
everything is possible and if all

1047
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:40,240
realities and possibilities exist

1048
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:42,960
simultaneously then it just depends on

1049
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:45,119
are you lucky enough to fall into

1050
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:46,160
you know

1051
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:49,200
uh a reality where that reveals itself

1052
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:50,160
um

1053
00:36:54,069 --> 00:36:52,000
so i think

1054
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:54,079
i think it's very possible i mean i do

1055
00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:56,160
like the idea of like this tourism like

1056
00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:58,560
like what were we like you know back if

1057
00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:01,119
i could come come on a journey and take

1058
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:03,520
a take sample and look at what we

1059
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:05,440
what we were like back in the day you

1060
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:07,520
know like we would we were smart but we

1061
00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:10,000
also very dumb and we also tried to

1062
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:12,079
segregate ourselves and divide ourselves

1063
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:14,079
and say that we were multiple different

1064
00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:15,520
things when we were part of the same

1065
00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:17,200
thing and but look how far we've got you

1066
00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:19,040
know i don't know maybe it's like this

1067
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:21,760
disaster tourism but um

1068
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:24,400
you know and and and the idea of like us

1069
00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:27,200
evolving you know to uh

1070
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:28,800
to a point at which our bodies change

1071
00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:30,640
and you know our we've got bigger brains

1072
00:37:36,790 --> 00:37:33,119
but then the question is like why

1073
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:36,800
this planet you know like why yeah why

1074
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:39,200
why us why are we why are we special you

1075
00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:41,359
know like why you know and and then that

1076
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:43,040
kind of gets me down to well it kind of

1077
00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:44,560
makes sense that we're kind of running

1078
00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:45,920
some kind of we're part of some kind of

1079
00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:48,160
an experiment you know where it's like

1080
00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:49,760
what what what the [\h__\h] are we doing

1081
00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:51,920
here like you know why do we

1082
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:54,079
why are we like basically transforming

1083
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:56,000
reality the ingredients the reality the

1084
00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:57,040
hard

1085
00:38:01,750 --> 00:37:59,760
grades of reality and copying what

1086
00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:01,760
nature does like bird flies well we

1087
00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:03,599
better figure out how to fly

1088
00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:04,400
well

1089
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:06,320
um you see how centipedes move maybe we

1090
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:07,520
can create a

1091
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:09,440
a thing like that oh here's a tank okay

1092
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:11,599
all right well here's a you know here's

1093
00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:12,960
you see how tough beetles are or

1094
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:14,079
whatever they have that chitin on

1095
00:38:17,349 --> 00:38:15,520
there's like what if we created armor

1096
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:17,359
first you know like everything we do

1097
00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:18,960
we're just rip-off artists the human

1098
00:38:23,589 --> 00:38:21,119
species is a big simulation species we

1099
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:23,599
just rip off everything around us that's

1100
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:24,800
all we do

1101
00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:26,400
because we want to be that we want to

1102
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:27,839
experience it it's like well i want to

1103
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,760
be able to go underwater you know for

1104
00:38:33,190 --> 00:38:31,440
months it's like well let's create a

1105
00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:33,200
boat that enables us to live under there

1106
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:34,079
but

1107
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:36,560
so or space we want to go out into space

1108
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:38,160
we want to take whatever this

1109
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:41,359
intersection of senses are smell sight

1110
00:38:45,349 --> 00:38:43,440
taste we want we have to like move that

1111
00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:45,359
point of consciousness to another

1112
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:47,680
reality in order to reinforce our

1113
00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:49,920
connection to reality or to just to see

1114
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:51,920
if it's possible like we're always

1115
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:53,760
moving ourselves

1116
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:56,000
to see if it's possible and i think like

1117
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:57,440
half of

1118
00:39:01,190 --> 00:38:59,440
or most of what ufo

1119
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:01,200
or uip

1120
00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:03,760
phenomena is is people knowing that we

1121
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:05,839
are more than what we seem

1122
00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:07,920
and seeking answers

1123
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:09,200
um

1124
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:11,440
that lead to the fantastic but the

1125
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:14,800
fantastic is quite possibly the reality

1126
00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:17,119
and uh and for whatever reasons we have

1127
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:19,520
these blinders on on purpose in order to

1128
00:39:27,910 --> 00:39:20,560
like

1129
00:39:30,069 --> 00:39:27,920
must find food oh cold must need shelter

1130
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:30,079
like we have all these basic things to

1131
00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:32,960
keep our entity alive but the questions

1132
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:33,839
of

1133
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:36,320
who are we where are we from

1134
00:39:40,390 --> 00:39:38,640
what is all of this

1135
00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:40,400
that's kind of i think at the core of

1136
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:43,440
every single human being no matter how

1137
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:45,760
whatever gross an individual is being at

1138
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:47,040
that time

1139
00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:48,720
we all come from that place we're a

1140
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:49,839
curious

1141
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:52,720
problem-solving species that has like

1142
00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:54,160
become awake

1143
00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:56,320
you know and and and are

1144
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:57,599
asking the question like what the [\h__\h]

1145
00:40:00,630 --> 00:39:59,359
is going on i mean basically basically

1146
00:40:02,310 --> 00:40:00,640
it's if

1147
00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:02,320
humanity could be encapsulated it'd be

1148
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:03,680
like what the [\h__\h] is going on like

1149
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:04,800
that's all we're doing we're just

1150
00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:06,160
constantly like going what the [\h__\h] is

1151
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:08,400
go why the [\h__\h] is that why are you how

1152
00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:10,640
come you're why is this how come this

1153
00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:11,760
well if you get

1154
00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:13,680
you know that's that's all we're doing

1155
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:15,200
constantly so

1156
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:17,760
it makes sense that we would want to

1157
00:40:22,310 --> 00:40:19,760
figure out what is the mechanism behind

1158
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:22,320
it what is what is reality what's

1159
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:25,359
happening and um it doesn't make sense

1160
00:40:30,069 --> 00:40:26,960
to be closed-minded

1161
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:30,079
about uh reality because you know like i

1162
00:40:35,109 --> 00:40:32,640
said i've seen ufos i i was when i was a

1163
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:35,119
teenager in montana we were camping we

1164
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:36,720
were in a valley

1165
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:38,640
and uh we decided to go on a really long

1166
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:40,000
walk at night

1167
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:41,359
and we did we went through a cattle

1168
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:42,720
fence we were walking across this huge

1169
00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:44,560
huge field a couple miles to get to a

1170
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:45,520
butte

1171
00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:48,960
and uh halfway across that journey um to

1172
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:51,680
the butte uh we you know i looked down

1173
00:40:56,069 --> 00:40:54,000
this kind of system of plateaus and i

1174
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:56,079
saw three lights and the three lights

1175
00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:57,359
were kind of

1176
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:59,440
moving but kind of at different

1177
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:01,359
distances you know from each other as

1178
00:41:06,150 --> 00:41:05,040
they moved and uh so i knew that

1179
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:06,160
most likely

1180
00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:08,000
there were separate things

1181
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:10,319
individual things individual craft and

1182
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:12,880
then at one point one stopped

1183
00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:14,000
and you could see

1184
00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:15,520
a bright light

1185
00:41:18,630 --> 00:41:16,480
kind of

1186
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:18,640
appear under it and then it turns off

1187
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:20,560
and then it starts moving again

1188
00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:21,440
and

1189
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:22,160
i

1190
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:30,400
tell me what you see and they saw the

1191
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:32,400
same thing i see these three lights i

1192
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:34,000
don't know if they saw the stopping

1193
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:37,200
whatever uh light underneath but they

1194
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:38,800
definitely saw those things those are

1195
00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:40,720
two of my friends and we saw saw those

1196
00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:42,560
things there was no sound

1197
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:44,319
and it makes no sense why something

1198
00:41:46,829 --> 00:41:45,680
would be glowing

1199
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:46,839
you know like

1200
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:49,520
why why would you why would the air

1201
00:41:53,190 --> 00:41:51,359
force create something or you know

1202
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:53,200
whatever uh

1203
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:54,960
these craft that are glowing and are

1204
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:56,880
they the same exact craft that were

1205
00:42:01,829 --> 00:42:00,319
being chased across in 1950s you know by

1206
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:01,839
squadrons of fighter jets that are

1207
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:03,599
scrambled to follow these objects across

1208
00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:05,280
the canadian border

1209
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:07,280
like why hasn't that design changed you

1210
00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:09,520
know i don't know but there's just like

1211
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:11,200
you know like what seeing that i was

1212
00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:13,760
like wow to feel

1213
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:15,599
to see something like that is crazy it

1214
00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:17,200
does a crazy thing in your mind because

1215
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:18,160
you're like

1216
00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:19,520
if it is

1217
00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:21,440
not if it's not

1218
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:23,520
if it is what i think it is

1219
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:25,200
that's [\h__\h] insane that i'm watching

1220
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:26,640
that i'm seeing it in reality it's like

1221
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:28,640
seeing a you know a magician do a trick

1222
00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:30,960
for you in front of your face and you're

1223
00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:32,000
like

1224
00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:33,520
i gotta let me look at that and you're

1225
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:34,640
like looking at the thing you're like

1226
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:36,240
that's not it how the [\h__\h] you know like

1227
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:38,160
that trick where you're like is magic

1228
00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:39,440
real

1229
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:42,000
in that moment that fantastic moment

1230
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:43,520
that's what it felt like what seeing

1231
00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:45,200
that i was like i can't believe i'm

1232
00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:47,280
seeing this this is

1233
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:48,720
this is what i'm seeing it is an

1234
00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:50,160
unidentified

1235
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:52,319
flying object it's definitely uap it

1236
00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:55,040
doesn't it doesn't say that it is aliens

1237
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:57,520
but i'm definitely seeing something that

1238
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:59,520
makes no [\h__\h] sense also it makes no

1239
00:43:02,550 --> 00:43:00,960
strategic sense

1240
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:02,560
at all like i don't know why you would

1241
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:04,319
create craft like that

1242
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:06,000
like i don't know what that gets us

1243
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:08,240
other than like aliens are attacking oh

1244
00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:10,640
[\h__\h] everybody's afraid i mean there's i

1245
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:11,920
don't know what that gets you either i

1246
00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:13,520
think you just want to make an efficient

1247
00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:16,000
weapon that could infiltrate an

1248
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:16,960
enemy

1249
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:18,880
you know what aerospace or whatever

1250
00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:20,640
space and then just like inflict what it

1251
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:22,000
needs to inflict and get the [\h__\h] out of

1252
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:23,119
there i don't think there's anything

1253
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:26,400
about it being glowing but anyways uh

1254
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:28,640
all that ranting and raving

1255
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:31,200
to say that i know that feeling i know

1256
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:34,319
that feeling and it's [\h__\h] crazy

1257
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:36,160
it's amazing

1258
00:43:41,109 --> 00:43:38,560
that's awesome man yeah so many people

1259
00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:41,119
say you know having a ufo experience is

1260
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:42,319
euphoric

1261
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:45,280
in in you know lack of a better term or

1262
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:47,040
for some people it's terrifying some

1263
00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:49,280
it's beautiful um you know i talked to a

1264
00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:50,800
mother and a daughter in michigan who

1265
00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:52,000
saw the same

1266
00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:55,440
triangular shaped ufo over the home

1267
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:57,119
you know the mom saw it first told the

1268
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:59,119
daughter come out come see this with me

1269
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:00,880
daughter comes out and they're looking

1270
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:02,800
up at this thing and the mother's

1271
00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:04,560
looking at it and she's like oh my god i

1272
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:06,880
feel this is so awe-inspiring it's

1273
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:09,040
amazing it's like you know

1274
00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:11,920
it's white it's bright white and it's so

1275
00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:14,720
bright and this is amazing it's angelic

1276
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:16,480
and she's like what do you think what do

1277
00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:18,640
you think she turns to her daughter and

1278
00:44:22,390 --> 00:44:20,720
her daughter dude she's on the ground in

1279
00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:22,400
the fetal position

1280
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:24,240
like covering her ears and saying how

1281
00:44:29,829 --> 00:44:27,440
unbearably loud the ufo was when the mom

1282
00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:29,839
said it was completely silent and then

1283
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:31,440
the daughter also said it was slick

1284
00:44:35,349 --> 00:44:32,400
black

1285
00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:35,359
and they're like interesting

1286
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:37,119
i didn't know what to make of it man

1287
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:38,560
when they told me this story they're

1288
00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:39,760
having like completely different

1289
00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:42,319
perceptions of supposedly looking at the

1290
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:44,400
same thing so then you also have to

1291
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:45,760
wonder like

1292
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:48,400
is this ufo or whatever

1293
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:51,599
sources behind it able to

1294
00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:54,560
change perception or or is it amorphous

1295
00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:56,480
in some sense i don't know but i think

1296
00:45:01,349 --> 00:44:58,800
you're right there's some sort of um

1297
00:45:03,829 --> 00:45:01,359
disruption to reality when it comes to

1298
00:45:05,829 --> 00:45:03,839
these things and people experienced them

1299
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,839
some differently you know i'm sure your

1300
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:07,680
friends took something completely

1301
00:45:11,589 --> 00:45:09,280
different away from that experience than

1302
00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:11,599
you did you just you don't know what how

1303
00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:13,760
someone will carry on with their life

1304
00:45:19,349 --> 00:45:16,880
after something like that i guess

1305
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:19,359
yeah it's it's it's impossible because

1306
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:21,280
you know people there are instantaneous

1307
00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:23,119
rationalizations that happen you know

1308
00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:24,880
that that are

1309
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:26,960
you know is your brain trying to protect

1310
00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:28,960
itself you know it's running every

1311
00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:31,280
scenario of what it could be and some

1312
00:45:34,710 --> 00:45:33,440
people choose to reduce something

1313
00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:34,720
mundane

1314
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:36,640
uh you know there's that phenomena that

1315
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:38,880
people talk about where if there's a

1316
00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:40,160
party

1317
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:42,000
happening you know in somebody's living

1318
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:45,119
room or something like that and someone

1319
00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:46,800
stepped into the room in a gorilla

1320
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:49,440
costume and waved its arms and then

1321
00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:51,440
walked out and closed the door again a

1322
00:45:55,589 --> 00:45:53,119
lot of people wouldn't

1323
00:45:57,109 --> 00:45:55,599
think of it as a big deal at all

1324
00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:57,119
and some people might not even remember

1325
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:58,240
it

1326
00:46:00,790 --> 00:45:59,440
and uh

1327
00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:00,800
and there's something that happens when

1328
00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:02,960
we see something so

1329
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:05,839
unexplainable or surprising or whatever

1330
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:06,800
it is

1331
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:08,240
uh they

1332
00:46:11,349 --> 00:46:10,000
there's an instantaneous rationalization

1333
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:11,359
because they're like well it can't be

1334
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:12,640
what you think

1335
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:17,520
what you fear it is let's say or what

1336
00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:19,920
you're hoping it is uh because

1337
00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:22,319
uh it's just probably not what it is and

1338
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:24,160
so so some people just kind of go like i

1339
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:26,319
register it

1340
00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:28,560
yeah and then just kind of like let it

1341
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:30,400
go whereas other people will be like

1342
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,480
holy [\h__\h] that's the thing i've been

1343
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:34,400
looking for you know or that's the thing

1344
00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:35,920
that because i've been looking for it it

1345
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:37,760
resonates to me you know there's like

1346
00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:39,440
something about it that's giving me

1347
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:41,359
information whereas other people will be

1348
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:42,960
like totally terrified

1349
00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:44,400
um instead of

1350
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:47,440
curious so uh it totally makes sense i

1351
00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:49,920
mean what do you expect it's

1352
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:51,760
you know most of the things

1353
00:46:55,109 --> 00:46:53,440
people get as surprised at the dumbest

1354
00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:55,119
things you know and when i say dumb i

1355
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:56,960
just mean like the simplest things you

1356
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:58,560
know they're they're they're like oh

1357
00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:59,920
[\h__\h] that's right you know i mean look

1358
00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:01,280
at like uh

1359
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:02,800
uh you know those

1360
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:04,319
healers or whatever you know that are

1361
00:47:07,670 --> 00:47:05,839
just like now you're healed you know and

1362
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:07,680
there's and and people were like i'm

1363
00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:08,800
healed you know they're just walking

1364
00:47:12,069 --> 00:47:10,160
around for a while and their doctor's

1365
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:12,079
like yeah you made your injury worse but

1366
00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:14,480
like um you know like

1367
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:16,400
like people people will believe or

1368
00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:18,960
disbelieve things based on

1369
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:20,400
the availability that they have of

1370
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:23,280
self-awareness in that moment

1371
00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:25,839
and i think uh you know her that that's

1372
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:27,920
a wonderful story but

1373
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:29,440
seeing that craft

1374
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:32,000
it it's it makes sense some people are

1375
00:47:35,109 --> 00:47:33,440
gonna be like holy [\h__\h] this is it you

1376
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:35,119
know oh this is them other people are

1377
00:47:38,550 --> 00:47:36,240
like

1378
00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:38,560
it doesn't exist i'm out of here

1379
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:40,480
g-school blank i don't know you know

1380
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:42,240
like

1381
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:50,160
everyone of course everyone's gonna

1382
00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:53,440
react differently yeah it's fascinating

1383
00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:55,119
it really is um

1384
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:56,800
well richie i've got a couple listener

1385
00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:58,319
questions if you're willing to stick

1386
00:48:01,910 --> 00:48:00,079
around we've almost been going for an

1387
00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:01,920
hour so thank you thank you for your

1388
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:04,160
time man

1389
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:06,800
do you like stories of the strange the

1390
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:08,960
weird and the unexplained then we want

1391
00:48:14,550 --> 00:48:11,839
you to check out jim harold's campfire

1392
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:14,560
the concept is pretty simple jim talks

1393
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:17,280
to regular people about strange stuff

1394
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:19,440
that happens to them and yes that

1395
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:23,119
includes ufos along with cryptids ghosts

1396
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:25,680
and head scratchers he doesn't

1397
00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:28,800
exaggerate or play a lot of spooky music

1398
00:48:33,750 --> 00:48:30,880
kinda like i'm doing right now the

1399
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:33,760
stories speak for themselves one's like

1400
00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:36,559
a ghost story involving serial killer

1401
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:39,200
ted bundy or the young man who

1402
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:42,559
encountered an eight-legged demon then

1403
00:48:47,750 --> 00:48:44,960
there's the story of an alien abduction

1404
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:47,760
by what could be considered a reptilian

1405
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:50,640
now not all the stories are horrifying

1406
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:53,040
some are actually pretty heartwarming

1407
00:48:58,309 --> 00:48:55,920
like a visit from a past loved one or a

1408
00:49:01,109 --> 00:48:58,319
peaceful near-death experience

1409
00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:01,119
regardless these are true and

1410
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:04,160
fascinating stories told by ordinary

1411
00:49:07,829 --> 00:49:06,160
people who've had extraordinary

1412
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:07,839
experiences

1413
00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:10,400
tune in to jim harold's campfire on

1414
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:14,000
apple podcasts spotify or wherever you

1415
00:49:17,589 --> 00:49:16,400
listen to somewhere in the skies and

1416
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:17,599
remember

1417
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:26,150
hey guys ryan here the summer in the

1418
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:29,440
skies podcast is a labor of love every

1419
00:49:34,069 --> 00:49:31,599
week and with that comes many different

1420
00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:34,079
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1421
00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:36,720
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1422
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:38,880
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1423
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1424
00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:43,119
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1425
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:45,680
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1426
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:48,480
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1427
00:49:54,309 --> 00:49:50,960
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1428
00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:54,319
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1429
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:56,079
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1430
00:50:01,910 --> 00:49:58,640
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1431
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1432
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:04,160
somewhereskies thank you for your

1433
00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:12,790
um no problem this first one comes from

1434
00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:15,040
uh one of our patreon subscribers they

1435
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:17,839
get priority to ask our guests questions

1436
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:18,720
um

1437
00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:22,960
and this is from ondeg and they ask uh

1438
00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:25,680
what does reggie does he have a theory

1439
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:26,559
um

1440
00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:28,640
about what ufos are i know we briefly

1441
00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:30,559
touched on that um

1442
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:33,520
but do you think it's possible that they

1443
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:35,520
could have been here on dead wants to

1444
00:50:39,910 --> 00:50:38,400
know longer before us you know this

1445
00:50:42,309 --> 00:50:39,920
there's this famous line from the

1446
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:42,319
x-files i think where you know in like

1447
00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:44,720
the second episode the weird spooky

1448
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:47,440
government agent guy is like mr mulder

1449
00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:49,760
they've been here for a very very long

1450
00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:51,680
time and i remember watching that as

1451
00:50:55,030 --> 00:50:53,680
like a 12 year old and that like gave me

1452
00:50:57,430 --> 00:50:55,040
shivers i'm like wait what does that

1453
00:51:00,069 --> 00:50:57,440
mean like before us um what do you make

1454
00:51:02,069 --> 00:51:00,079
of that whole theory that maybe

1455
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:02,079
uh we're not even

1456
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:04,800
the earthlings per se we just

1457
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:07,200
came on a comet here and hitched a ride

1458
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:08,720
and came to earth and there was

1459
00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:10,559
something here before us i don't know

1460
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:12,160
does that make any sense to you that

1461
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:13,200
theory

1462
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:14,880
of course yeah of course it makes sense

1463
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:16,480
i mean it makes sense again in the

1464
00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:18,319
ancient alien um

1465
00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:20,720
hypothesis uh

1466
00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:23,359
yeah it would make sense i mean we

1467
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:24,880
i just wouldn't be surprised i mean we

1468
00:51:28,549 --> 00:51:26,720
hear about things like lemuria and

1469
00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:28,559
atlantis and these civilizations that

1470
00:51:31,190 --> 00:51:30,400
existed before us

1471
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:31,200
um

1472
00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:33,200
and uh

1473
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:35,760
you know i again i do i do think it's

1474
00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:37,680
possible um

1475
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:39,200
because

1476
00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:40,559
the universe

1477
00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:43,040
is it's just too insane i mean we live

1478
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:45,040
in a reality that's too insane and the

1479
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:46,880
more instruments we create to like

1480
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:49,599
analyze our our reality the more baffled

1481
00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:51,280
we are you know like the

1482
00:51:54,549 --> 00:51:52,960
the smaller we look

1483
00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:54,559
like we look at the scanning electron

1484
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:56,800
microscopes you know we go to atom

1485
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:58,319
smashers and we're studying like

1486
00:52:02,390 --> 00:52:00,160
isotopes and you know all these things

1487
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:02,400
then we're like well theoretically you

1488
00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:04,000
know there should be this much distance

1489
00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:05,599
between you know the nucleus of this or

1490
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:06,480
whatever it's like well what is the

1491
00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:08,240
nucleus meter well it's theoretically as

1492
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:10,160
well it's like dark dark energy all

1493
00:52:13,990 --> 00:52:12,160
these like it just gets muckier and

1494
00:52:15,750 --> 00:52:14,000
muckier the smaller we look and then as

1495
00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:15,760
we look out right like especially with

1496
00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:17,280
the james webb telescope we're looking

1497
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:18,640
back in time but we're starting to see

1498
00:52:22,790 --> 00:52:20,240
these anomalies where you're like that

1499
00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:22,800
shouldn't be there oh that's surprising

1500
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:24,640
oh we're there's carbon dioxide in that

1501
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:26,559
in the atmosphere of that of that

1502
00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:29,520
exoplanet like it's just more mystery so

1503
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:31,359
we're sandwiched

1504
00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:33,119
between mystery like the point at which

1505
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:34,640
we exist and what how we're able to

1506
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:36,480
perceive reality and no matter how many

1507
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:38,640
instruments we're able to peer like

1508
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:41,520
further back in time or out into

1509
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:43,440
time which again is looking back in time

1510
00:52:48,309 --> 00:52:46,319
but like the whatever wherever we look

1511
00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:48,319
we keep looking more more and more and

1512
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:50,800
focused in some in a specific direction

1513
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:52,400
it's like fractals

1514
00:52:56,549 --> 00:52:54,480
it never ends like just when you think

1515
00:52:58,549 --> 00:52:56,559
oh that point this thing coming at me

1516
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:58,559
right now i know what this is that's oh

1517
00:53:02,390 --> 00:53:00,480
that's nothing that's nothing at all it

1518
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:02,400
continues to be nothing it continues to

1519
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:04,319
be everything it continues to be nothing

1520
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:05,520
so i think

1521
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:08,720
that idea of beings existing you know

1522
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:10,640
here on this planet before this

1523
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:12,880
particular incarnation of consciousness

1524
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:14,400
that we are currently

1525
00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:17,280
is is highly likely i i wouldn't see

1526
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:19,839
i couldn't see why not i mean

1527
00:53:25,589 --> 00:53:20,720
we

1528
00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:25,599
of a former civilization that's what

1529
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:27,359
we're doing we're just like piecing

1530
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,000
together the scraps of an earlier a more

1531
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:32,880
advanced civilization to me

1532
00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:35,359
interesting i like that um the whole

1533
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:39,040
fractal concept is fascinating to me um

1534
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:43,040
that uap girl on twitter reggie asks uh

1535
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:46,640
top three earthlings you'd send in first

1536
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:48,640
for contact if we were to ever make

1537
00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:51,200
contact with whatever ufos represent

1538
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:53,760
whatever intelligence is behind them who

1539
00:53:59,349 --> 00:53:56,480
would you put first in line or i guess

1540
00:54:02,150 --> 00:53:59,359
first second and third in line to uh

1541
00:54:03,190 --> 00:54:02,160
make that first contact

1542
00:54:05,349 --> 00:54:03,200
um

1543
00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:05,359
well a lot of the people are dead

1544
00:54:09,910 --> 00:54:07,839
uh but that's

1545
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:09,920
carl sagan

1546
00:54:15,829 --> 00:54:14,240
would be an amazing person a choice um

1547
00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:15,839
you know

1548
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:17,200
i mean

1549
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:20,000
buckley we know the person but i think

1550
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:22,800
uh well no i think

1551
00:54:26,549 --> 00:54:24,640
let me think about this well i would

1552
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:26,559
love to i would love to

1553
00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:29,280
hang out and say hi and just be like hey

1554
00:54:33,670 --> 00:54:30,720
guys what's going on you know i would

1555
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:33,680
love to so i put myself in there um

1556
00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:35,520
and

1557
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:36,720
i'm trying to think of someone a little

1558
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:39,359
bit oh well

1559
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:41,440
okay i mean like the sun raw would want

1560
00:54:47,190 --> 00:54:44,480
to for sure but uh

1561
00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:47,200
he's no longer around but i i think uh

1562
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:50,079
trying to think of like an artist

1563
00:54:53,349 --> 00:54:51,440
but it has to be someone who's oh you

1564
00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:53,359
know what well i don't know

1565
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:55,599
oh that's a weird one sorry i had to be

1566
00:55:00,950 --> 00:54:57,040
someone who's a good communicator i

1567
00:55:08,069 --> 00:55:03,510
alex gray is an interesting guy

1568
00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:08,079
you know or sarah silverman i i mean

1569
00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:10,160
yeah i i put some of those people i

1570
00:55:12,790 --> 00:55:11,280
think sarah would be great because she's

1571
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:12,800
a good she's a rationalist but she's

1572
00:55:17,750 --> 00:55:15,200
also a very compassionate person i i

1573
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:17,760
think it requires people that are a

1574
00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:19,440
little bit emotionally connected

1575
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:20,960
emotionally

1576
00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:23,280
empathic but also

1577
00:55:27,990 --> 00:55:25,599
very rational i think that those are the

1578
00:55:30,470 --> 00:55:28,000
people we want to send in there

1579
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:30,480
i love that um you know a question i

1580
00:55:35,589 --> 00:55:33,440
didn't get to you was um it seems to me

1581
00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:35,599
when i talk to people outside of the

1582
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:38,079
quote-unquote ufo community it's usually

1583
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:41,040
either musicians or uh

1584
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:44,160
comedians or some sort of artist and you

1585
00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:45,520
said it right there you know you'd like

1586
00:55:49,270 --> 00:55:47,280
to have an artist be one of the first

1587
00:55:52,230 --> 00:55:49,280
people to make contact what do you think

1588
00:55:54,549 --> 00:55:52,240
it is about musicians and artists i mean

1589
00:55:57,750 --> 00:55:54,559
i if i went back in my catalog of shows

1590
00:56:00,549 --> 00:55:57,760
i would say like a healthy 30 40 have

1591
00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:00,559
been musicians or or an artist of some

1592
00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:02,480
kind what do you think that says

1593
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:04,960
about these phenomena and those who seem

1594
00:56:09,030 --> 00:56:06,000
to want to

1595
00:56:11,190 --> 00:56:09,040
pursue that mystery i guess

1596
00:56:12,549 --> 00:56:11,200
well i think i think uh

1597
00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:12,559
as an artist when you when you're

1598
00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:16,319
creating things uh it depends on you

1599
00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:18,079
know how you view what creativity is and

1600
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:19,520
where it comes from and so forth but i

1601
00:56:22,789 --> 00:56:20,319
think

1602
00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:22,799
um it feels like channeling to an extent

1603
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:25,119
and it keeps your mind and open

1604
00:56:30,069 --> 00:56:28,319
uh in an open state so in order to

1605
00:56:32,870 --> 00:56:30,079
especially

1606
00:56:34,630 --> 00:56:32,880
for what i do improvising

1607
00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:34,640
like you have to be open to all

1608
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:36,480
possibilities in that moment and you

1609
00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:38,400
have to also initialize something you

1610
00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:40,079
have to start with something and as you

1611
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:41,440
start you build on it because you're

1612
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:42,960
kind of listening to possibilities and

1613
00:56:46,789 --> 00:56:45,280
those things are collapsing into the the

1614
00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:46,799
higher probabilities and then you just

1615
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:48,160
kind of you know allow those

1616
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:49,839
probabilities to kind of flow through

1617
00:56:53,750 --> 00:56:52,319
you and so i think that

1618
00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:53,760
that

1619
00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:56,000
element oh and then also the dreaming

1620
00:56:59,109 --> 00:56:57,119
you know the

1621
00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:59,119
not quoting the sandman but like

1622
00:57:04,390 --> 00:57:01,440
like the the dreaming element of being

1623
00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:04,400
an artist of visualizing a world

1624
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:06,640
imagining a scenario seeing certain

1625
00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:08,400
things it's very like big open

1626
00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:11,440
imaginative and you understand the power

1627
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:15,440
of of limitless possibility and i think

1628
00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:16,480
that

1629
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:18,240
the idea

1630
00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:21,119
that we're just yeah you know some

1631
00:57:24,710 --> 00:57:22,960
some organisms you know with an

1632
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:24,720
endoskeleton walking around just trying

1633
00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:26,720
to survive and procreate like i think

1634
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:28,720
that that's boring i think that that's

1635
00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:31,280
very boring because why are we even able

1636
00:57:34,309 --> 00:57:32,799
to think about those things why am i

1637
00:57:36,549 --> 00:57:34,319
able to think about the thing that i'm

1638
00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:36,559
thinking about that i am

1639
00:57:39,589 --> 00:57:37,920
you know and i think that those are the

1640
00:57:41,109 --> 00:57:39,599
questions that artists think about and

1641
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:41,119
the same thing with scientists you know

1642
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:42,720
as i've said

1643
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:45,119
science and art those are the only two

1644
00:57:48,789 --> 00:57:46,960
things that really matter

1645
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:48,799
everything is in between those things

1646
00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:51,280
and but they're both interchangeable

1647
00:57:58,950 --> 00:57:54,640
because science creates well science

1648
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:58,960
reveals fantastic things that we

1649
00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:00,000
that we

1650
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:04,079
may most of us may not ever imagine

1651
00:58:10,230 --> 00:58:06,480
artists are able to

1652
00:58:11,589 --> 00:58:10,240
tap into and project concepts that might

1653
00:58:13,589 --> 00:58:11,599
be real

1654
00:58:16,069 --> 00:58:13,599
so the two of them together it's great

1655
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:16,079
it's like it's empirical but it's also

1656
00:58:20,069 --> 00:58:18,400
visionary and uh

1657
00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:20,079
but the empirical evidence also which is

1658
00:58:22,710 --> 00:58:21,280
great about science is that they don't

1659
00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:22,720
say that they know anything for sure

1660
00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:24,400
it's like we just know what we know in

1661
00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:26,319
this given time and these are all this

1662
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:27,920
is the consensus of where we're at right

1663
00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:28,799
now

1664
00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:30,640
our understanding could change because

1665
00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:32,880
our theoretical element is now saying

1666
00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:34,880
well maybe it could be this could be a

1667
00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:37,040
product of this it's theoretical and

1668
00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:38,400
then we invent some instruments or

1669
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:39,680
whatever and then something we're like

1670
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:41,119
actually a little bit of theory is true

1671
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:42,960
and then it evolves so

1672
00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:44,640
and art kind of does the same thing and

1673
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:46,559
that techniques evolve ways of

1674
00:58:52,150 --> 00:58:49,280
representing things evolve uh you know

1675
00:58:55,190 --> 00:58:52,160
uh it's it's a never-ending cascade of

1676
00:58:56,549 --> 00:58:55,200
possibility uh when it comes to

1677
00:58:57,990 --> 00:58:56,559
what art can create and what it can

1678
00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:58,000
project and how it affects people and

1679
00:59:00,630 --> 00:58:59,680
the same thing with science science is

1680
00:59:02,630 --> 00:59:00,640
like

1681
00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:02,640
well we're curious we want to find stuff

1682
00:59:06,549 --> 00:59:04,319
out but we also want to be empirical

1683
00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:06,559
about it and um and both methods are

1684
00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:08,480
very very related because they

1685
00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:10,400
they inspire one another you know

1686
00:59:14,230 --> 00:59:12,480
spaceship design is inspired by earlier

1687
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:14,240
science fiction writers science fiction

1688
00:59:17,430 --> 00:59:15,520
science fiction writers write about

1689
00:59:19,510 --> 00:59:17,440
certain formations of hierarchical

1690
00:59:21,750 --> 00:59:19,520
society or non-hierarchical society and

1691
00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:21,760
then suddenly down the line there's a

1692
00:59:25,349 --> 00:59:23,599
civilization that starts

1693
00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:25,359
using some of those ideas or whatever

1694
00:59:29,270 --> 00:59:26,640
you know what i mean it's like they they

1695
00:59:30,470 --> 00:59:29,280
all influence each other

1696
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:30,480
i love that yeah it's like a

1697
00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:32,400
choreographed dance you know you need

1698
00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:33,200
both

1699
00:59:39,589 --> 00:59:37,200
the dreamers for it to uh

1700
00:59:41,829 --> 00:59:39,599
continue um got a couple of music

1701
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:41,839
questions for you reggie um

1702
00:59:47,109 --> 00:59:44,720
let's go let's go uh joss horror on

1703
00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:47,119
instagram asks have you ever sampled any

1704
00:59:52,390 --> 00:59:50,160
sound from ufo or alien movies uh for

1705
00:59:54,230 --> 00:59:52,400
your freestyles and loops by the way i

1706
00:59:57,030 --> 00:59:54,240
love your work and thank you for talking

1707
00:59:58,870 --> 00:59:57,040
about ufos josh says oh

1708
01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:58,880
sick that's awesome it's my pleasure

1709
01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:00,880
it's one of my favorite things

1710
01:00:05,589 --> 01:00:02,400
uh

1711
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:05,599
no i have not but i do

1712
01:00:12,069 --> 01:00:08,960
i do do a lot i i take a lot from

1713
01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:12,079
science fiction movies like uh

1714
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:14,319
yeah so sometimes like in my sets i'll

1715
01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:15,119
be

1716
01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:18,240
musical but sometimes i'll you know i'll

1717
01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:20,079
pretend i'm in like a giant like mech

1718
01:00:25,750 --> 01:00:22,720
suit or whatever and you know and so i'm

1719
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:34,710
or a jet you know or it's just like

1720
01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:36,630
you know like all these like sounds that

1721
01:00:39,990 --> 01:00:37,680
i hear

1722
01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:40,000
and i mimic uh because i'm just

1723
01:00:45,030 --> 01:00:42,559
fascinated with them so i do sample the

1724
01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:45,040
things that i'm exposed to and use them

1725
01:00:51,670 --> 01:00:48,960
uh vocally or conceptually in my pieces

1726
01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:51,680
i love that i love that um isaac kind of

1727
01:00:57,190 --> 01:00:54,240
in the same vein uh isaac on facebook

1728
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:57,200
asks uh does your understanding of sound

1729
01:01:01,430 --> 01:00:59,359
rhythm and harmony affect your

1730
01:01:05,670 --> 01:01:01,440
understanding in relationship with the

1731
01:01:11,430 --> 01:01:08,870
i think it does because

1732
01:01:12,630 --> 01:01:11,440
you know again we're we're we're just an

1733
01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:12,640
intersection of

1734
01:01:17,270 --> 01:01:14,400
of

1735
01:01:19,510 --> 01:01:17,280
frequency detecting sensors

1736
01:01:21,030 --> 01:01:19,520
and um uh you know we're an intersection

1737
01:01:23,750 --> 01:01:21,040
of those things so

1738
01:01:26,789 --> 01:01:23,760
and so most of us have all of the senses

1739
01:01:29,270 --> 01:01:26,799
some of us don't or some of us have lost

1740
01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:29,280
a few of those senses but we have enough

1741
01:01:33,670 --> 01:01:30,640
of them that we can still localize

1742
01:01:35,670 --> 01:01:33,680
ourselves uh in in space and so

1743
01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:35,680
i think that

1744
01:01:38,549 --> 01:01:36,640
uh

1745
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:38,559
being a musician especially because

1746
01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:41,040
music is so dependent on frequency and

1747
01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:42,160
vibration

1748
01:01:46,549 --> 01:01:44,400
uh sympathetic uh

1749
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:46,559
uh dissonance um

1750
01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:49,440
harmonies like all of these elements of

1751
01:01:56,470 --> 01:01:52,960
that music uh that music is

1752
01:01:59,190 --> 01:01:56,480
is what life is and i think

1753
01:02:01,589 --> 01:01:59,200
when when you realize like vibe intent

1754
01:02:03,990 --> 01:02:01,599
like i was on the airplane yes yesterday

1755
01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:04,000
or yeah yesterday

1756
01:02:09,190 --> 01:02:06,000
and yes i had a little bit of a hash

1757
01:02:11,270 --> 01:02:09,200
edible but i was i was uh i was it was

1758
01:02:13,109 --> 01:02:11,280
the first time i'd experienced this

1759
01:02:15,430 --> 01:02:13,119
i was on i was on the airplane the

1760
01:02:16,870 --> 01:02:15,440
airplane took off and as you know

1761
01:02:18,549 --> 01:02:16,880
there's a lot of sounds an airplane

1762
01:02:20,390 --> 01:02:18,559
makes when it takes off and some people

1763
01:02:22,549 --> 01:02:20,400
are afraid of those things but for me

1764
01:02:23,430 --> 01:02:22,559
i start to notice what those things are

1765
01:02:26,069 --> 01:02:23,440
so

1766
01:02:33,190 --> 01:02:26,079
when you hear that

1767
01:02:38,309 --> 01:02:35,670
that's that's just the landing gear it's

1768
01:02:40,069 --> 01:02:38,319
the it's the rotation of the tires after

1769
01:02:41,990 --> 01:02:40,079
it's left the tarmac they're still

1770
01:02:45,030 --> 01:02:42,000
rotating and then as the landing gear go

1771
01:02:46,950 --> 01:02:45,040
in you hear the speed roll off until

1772
01:02:49,990 --> 01:02:46,960
they're finally stopped rotating and i

1773
01:02:51,190 --> 01:02:50,000
felt that i felt it through the floor

1774
01:02:53,670 --> 01:02:51,200
because i was closer to the front of the

1775
01:02:56,230 --> 01:02:53,680
plane and the front landing gear i felt

1776
01:02:58,309 --> 01:02:56,240
when that wheel stopped rotating

1777
01:03:00,150 --> 01:02:58,319
and then i knew the flaps when uh were

1778
01:03:02,789 --> 01:03:00,160
coming up because the plane started to

1779
01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:02,799
feel a little bit different then the no

1780
01:03:06,470 --> 01:03:04,720
you know all the noises and then here's

1781
01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:06,480
here's the incredible thing the guy next

1782
01:03:10,630 --> 01:03:07,440
to me

1783
01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:10,640
was sneezing and i wasn't wearing a mask

1784
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:11,520
um

1785
01:03:16,309 --> 01:03:13,200
and and i was like

1786
01:03:17,430 --> 01:03:16,319
oh [\h__\h] this guy's just sneezing but i

1787
01:03:19,270 --> 01:03:17,440
knew

1788
01:03:23,029 --> 01:03:19,280
that it wasn't covered

1789
01:03:24,549 --> 01:03:23,039
well okay i need 98 knew in my head i

1790
01:03:26,950 --> 01:03:24,559
knew that it wasn't because i knew that

1791
01:03:28,789 --> 01:03:26,960
it was allergies i could i could tell by

1792
01:03:31,670 --> 01:03:28,799
the way he was sniffing and the way that

1793
01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:31,680
he was breathing that it was allergies

1794
01:03:37,589 --> 01:03:35,280
it wasn't wow i'm sick i'm sick so

1795
01:03:38,789 --> 01:03:37,599
these types of things and that was like

1796
01:03:41,029 --> 01:03:38,799
yesterday and that was kind of like a

1797
01:03:42,950 --> 01:03:41,039
new moment for me and in in a way

1798
01:03:44,470 --> 01:03:42,960
because i started going oh i understand

1799
01:03:45,910 --> 01:03:44,480
what's going on with this thing or

1800
01:03:47,270 --> 01:03:45,920
you're on a bridge and you're hearing a

1801
01:03:48,789 --> 01:03:47,280
creak or whatever you're like no that's

1802
01:03:51,029 --> 01:03:48,799
that's just the structure giving way

1803
01:03:53,670 --> 01:03:51,039
because it needs to be flexible or you

1804
01:03:55,430 --> 01:03:53,680
know or oh no oh that's actually that is

1805
01:03:56,710 --> 01:03:55,440
an earthquake you know like like there

1806
01:03:57,990 --> 01:03:56,720
have been many times where i've gotten

1807
01:03:59,270 --> 01:03:58,000
up from i was in the yoga class and i

1808
01:04:01,190 --> 01:03:59,280
got up and i was like earthquake or

1809
01:04:02,470 --> 01:04:01,200
whatever people thought i was crazy and

1810
01:04:04,309 --> 01:04:02,480
they didn't feel anything and then like

1811
01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:04,319
in the news reports like a 3.3 or

1812
01:04:09,430 --> 01:04:06,480
earthquake whatever you know so i think

1813
01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:09,440
being a musician you know in short it it

1814
01:04:13,029 --> 01:04:11,280
if you if you want to not all musicians

1815
01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:13,039
do this but but there's a higher

1816
01:04:16,950 --> 01:04:14,400
likelihood that you're sensitive to

1817
01:04:18,710 --> 01:04:16,960
vibrations and shifts in energy

1818
01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:18,720
around you um and that's how

1819
01:04:22,069 --> 01:04:20,160
improvisation works that's why music is

1820
01:04:23,510 --> 01:04:22,079
so magical why it just like leave it it

1821
01:04:25,990 --> 01:04:23,520
feels like you're levitating when

1822
01:04:27,430 --> 01:04:26,000
something really starts to take off and

1823
01:04:28,870 --> 01:04:27,440
and everything's feeding off of each

1824
01:04:31,190 --> 01:04:28,880
other and it just

1825
01:04:32,549 --> 01:04:31,200
it reaches a synchronicity where it's

1826
01:04:33,829 --> 01:04:32,559
just like pushes

1827
01:04:36,069 --> 01:04:33,839
and it's all like

1828
01:04:37,349 --> 01:04:36,079
synchronized and like those plates that

1829
01:04:38,950 --> 01:04:37,359
you see

1830
01:04:41,349 --> 01:04:38,960
people run vibrational frequencies and

1831
01:04:42,950 --> 01:04:41,359
they pour sand on it and you see they'll

1832
01:04:44,870 --> 01:04:42,960
turn up the frequency and then you'll

1833
01:04:46,069 --> 01:04:44,880
see the shape kind of

1834
01:04:49,589 --> 01:04:46,079
look like this and they'll change the

1835
01:04:53,349 --> 01:04:51,829
like that type of stuff you're aware of

1836
01:04:55,990 --> 01:04:53,359
that those

1837
01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:56,000
molecules are taking on shapes

1838
01:05:01,910 --> 01:05:00,000
according to uh vibration so i long

1839
01:05:04,069 --> 01:05:01,920
answer but i love that question because

1840
01:05:06,230 --> 01:05:04,079
uh it's it's something i've been

1841
01:05:07,910 --> 01:05:06,240
encountering or more sensitive to

1842
01:05:10,549 --> 01:05:07,920
uh lately i think that that when it

1843
01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:10,559
comes to phenomena like uap and so forth

1844
01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:12,400
or uh

1845
01:05:16,789 --> 01:05:14,640
alien intelligence and so forth i i

1846
01:05:19,430 --> 01:05:16,799
think that it lets you know that you

1847
01:05:21,109 --> 01:05:19,440
have access to all of that which is

1848
01:05:24,230 --> 01:05:21,119
which is to say we have access to all

1849
01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:24,240
forms of consciousness and uh alien or

1850
01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:26,400
otherwise because there isn't really at

1851
01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:28,160
least this is in my humble opinion there

1852
01:05:32,470 --> 01:05:30,640
isn't such thing as alien consciousness

1853
01:05:34,470 --> 01:05:32,480
it's like we're we are all part of

1854
01:05:36,230 --> 01:05:34,480
consciousness and so it's just the

1855
01:05:38,390 --> 01:05:36,240
revelation of different forms of

1856
01:05:39,190 --> 01:05:38,400
consciousness and also and then i'll add

1857
01:05:41,589 --> 01:05:39,200
this

1858
01:05:42,630 --> 01:05:41,599
i love the term life form

1859
01:05:44,390 --> 01:05:42,640
because

1860
01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:44,400
whenever i see an ant

1861
01:05:50,150 --> 01:05:47,119
when i see a you know like scanning

1862
01:05:52,069 --> 01:05:50,160
electron a microscope you know shot of a

1863
01:05:54,470 --> 01:05:52,079
water bear or whatever

1864
01:05:55,270 --> 01:05:54,480
they're all life forms they're forms of

1865
01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:55,280
life

1866
01:06:01,910 --> 01:05:59,839
us and we're all a part of it we're all

1867
01:06:03,910 --> 01:06:01,920
we're all life but as humans we like to

1868
01:06:06,150 --> 01:06:03,920
think well because i'm conscious and i

1869
01:06:08,069 --> 01:06:06,160
can decide that i can do this and do

1870
01:06:09,750 --> 01:06:08,079
this or make this like this makes me

1871
01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:09,760
different from all the rest of life it's

1872
01:06:13,589 --> 01:06:11,280
like it's just a bunch of [\h__\h] which

1873
01:06:15,349 --> 01:06:13,599
is it's like we're all made of the same

1874
01:06:17,589 --> 01:06:15,359
[\h__\h] it's all just frequencies and

1875
01:06:19,109 --> 01:06:17,599
vibrations and formations of matter and

1876
01:06:21,190 --> 01:06:19,119
consciousness observing itself but

1877
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:21,200
anyways

1878
01:06:25,589 --> 01:06:23,920
i love it i love it life form life form

1879
01:06:28,630 --> 01:06:25,599
for sure man um

1880
01:06:30,870 --> 01:06:28,640
last musical question uh

1881
01:06:32,710 --> 01:06:30,880
what is your favorite musical instrument

1882
01:06:35,270 --> 01:06:32,720
that you've yet to use

1883
01:06:38,069 --> 01:06:35,280
anything you just haven't been able to

1884
01:06:42,630 --> 01:06:38,079
get your hands on or or even start to

1885
01:06:47,029 --> 01:06:44,789
wow an instrument that i haven't used

1886
01:06:48,470 --> 01:06:47,039
that i want to um

1887
01:06:50,470 --> 01:06:48,480
i'd say it's an instrument that doesn't

1888
01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:50,480
exist yet

1889
01:06:53,990 --> 01:06:51,280
uh

1890
01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:54,000
there's an instrument i i want i want i

1891
01:07:00,390 --> 01:06:57,839
use loopers uh for my performances

1892
01:07:01,430 --> 01:07:00,400
and there is no looper that i absolutely

1893
01:07:03,750 --> 01:07:01,440
love

1894
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:03,760
like i have an electric car

1895
01:07:09,109 --> 01:07:06,480
that i 100 love

1896
01:07:10,950 --> 01:07:09,119
um like i'm completely satisfied driving

1897
01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:10,960
this vehicle like 100

1898
01:07:14,069 --> 01:07:12,400
and in my life

1899
01:07:18,150 --> 01:07:14,079
that's what i look for i look for

1900
01:07:19,910 --> 01:07:18,160
experiences of total satisfaction um and

1901
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:19,920
but i'm not so harsh that i'm not i'm

1902
01:07:24,630 --> 01:07:22,319
gonna miss it like like i do take note

1903
01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:24,640
like you know like flashlights like this

1904
01:07:27,910 --> 01:07:26,400
flashlight not this one particularly

1905
01:07:29,990 --> 01:07:27,920
there's another one but there's a

1906
01:07:31,589 --> 01:07:30,000
flashlight that i use that i'm 100

1907
01:07:32,870 --> 01:07:31,599
satisfied with like there's nothing i

1908
01:07:34,309 --> 01:07:32,880
would change

1909
01:07:37,750 --> 01:07:34,319
really about the design well except for

1910
01:07:40,309 --> 01:07:37,760
usb-c port for recharging but um

1911
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:40,319
other than that i'm fully satisfied so

1912
01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:43,200
uh i guess what i'm saying is uh

1913
01:07:47,349 --> 01:07:45,440
wait a minute what was i talking about

1914
01:07:49,589 --> 01:07:47,359
yeah yeah no the instrument you've yet

1915
01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:49,599
to use the instrument that's yet to be

1916
01:07:52,870 --> 01:07:50,400
uh

1917
01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:52,880
created right right yeah i'm back i went

1918
01:07:56,950 --> 01:07:55,280
i went too far out but uh yeah so so why

1919
01:07:59,270 --> 01:07:56,960
i said all that is because i don't have

1920
01:08:01,829 --> 01:07:59,280
a looping pedal there's no

1921
01:08:04,549 --> 01:08:01,839
there's i mean the line six which is my

1922
01:08:05,910 --> 01:08:04,559
my the most well-known pedal that i that

1923
01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:05,920
i use

1924
01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:06,960
uh

1925
01:08:10,549 --> 01:08:09,520
that line six

1926
01:08:11,990 --> 01:08:10,559
is

1927
01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:12,000
almost

1928
01:08:17,669 --> 01:08:15,680
a perfect pedal it's it's very close but

1929
01:08:19,990 --> 01:08:17,679
not quite and then the other multi-track

1930
01:08:22,149 --> 01:08:20,000
loopers i use they they do their jobs

1931
01:08:23,030 --> 01:08:22,159
well and i can make music with it but i

1932
01:08:28,550 --> 01:08:23,040
can't

1933
01:08:31,510 --> 01:08:28,560
in a hardcore way intuitively because

1934
01:08:33,829 --> 01:08:31,520
the controls are not intuitive and so

1935
01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:33,839
i guess i i just say that i there is an

1936
01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:35,040
instrument that i want to play you know

1937
01:08:38,630 --> 01:08:36,480
i would love to develop some kind of a

1938
01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:38,640
cello like looking instrument that had

1939
01:08:42,229 --> 01:08:40,560
multiple buttons that i could you know

1940
01:08:43,669 --> 01:08:42,239
manipulate and then i could also tilt

1941
01:08:44,950 --> 01:08:43,679
which would create effects or move

1942
01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:44,960
forward that would

1943
01:08:48,390 --> 01:08:46,960
create effects i could hold close to my

1944
01:08:50,550 --> 01:08:48,400
body and i could just really integrate

1945
01:08:52,550 --> 01:08:50,560
with and play rhythms and chords and

1946
01:08:54,470 --> 01:08:52,560
also trigger looping things so

1947
01:08:56,229 --> 01:08:54,480
the answer is that there isn't that

1948
01:08:57,990 --> 01:08:56,239
instrument doesn't exist yet so i'm

1949
01:09:00,950 --> 01:08:58,000
working on it

1950
01:09:01,910 --> 01:09:00,960
love it love it it's constantly evolving

1951
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:01,920
um

1952
01:09:06,630 --> 01:09:04,480
well i guess here's one last

1953
01:09:08,149 --> 01:09:06,640
question i found really interesting

1954
01:09:10,510 --> 01:09:08,159
that i'd love to get your thoughts kind

1955
01:09:13,590 --> 01:09:10,520
of wrap things up reggie um

1956
01:09:19,349 --> 01:09:13,600
hamptonsteve's on twitter asks is love

1957
01:09:23,189 --> 01:09:21,030
i love that yeah i think i saw that on

1958
01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:23,199
twitter yeah um

1959
01:09:26,390 --> 01:09:24,400
i thought that was an excellent question

1960
01:09:28,390 --> 01:09:26,400
i'm glad that you asked it uh

1961
01:09:29,510 --> 01:09:28,400
i think it's both i think that there is

1962
01:09:30,950 --> 01:09:29,520
um

1963
01:09:33,430 --> 01:09:30,960
definitely

1964
01:09:34,870 --> 01:09:33,440
you know chemicals that are released

1965
01:09:36,309 --> 01:09:34,880
uh that

1966
01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:36,319
are you responding to

1967
01:09:40,470 --> 01:09:37,600
[Music]

1968
01:09:43,590 --> 01:09:40,480
a vibe a physical representation and a

1969
01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:43,600
vibration that you get from somebody

1970
01:09:47,030 --> 01:09:45,359
that you're with that says

1971
01:09:49,110 --> 01:09:47,040
hey man

1972
01:09:50,309 --> 01:09:49,120
you should hang with this person on a

1973
01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:50,319
biological level it's like you should

1974
01:09:53,269 --> 01:09:51,600
hang with this person because you're

1975
01:09:55,110 --> 01:09:53,279
going to make great offspring like

1976
01:09:56,550 --> 01:09:55,120
that's like that's that's that's

1977
01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:56,560
definitely there it's like boy you

1978
01:09:59,669 --> 01:09:57,840
should get together with that person

1979
01:10:01,990 --> 01:09:59,679
because those kids they're going to be

1980
01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:02,000
really cool you know there's definitely

1981
01:10:06,070 --> 01:10:03,520
that whether that's true or not that's

1982
01:10:07,669 --> 01:10:06,080
the message that biology is like yeah

1983
01:10:09,430 --> 01:10:07,679
let me hook on you so we can make more

1984
01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:09,440
of you but uh

1985
01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:11,600
i think that love is a greater energy

1986
01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:16,880
than that i think that love is um

1987
01:10:21,270 --> 01:10:20,080
yeah love is like

1988
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:21,280
it to me

1989
01:10:24,229 --> 01:10:23,120
love is the building block of all

1990
01:10:29,110 --> 01:10:24,239
reality

1991
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:29,120
is love and i think that anything else

1992
01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:30,719
is

1993
01:10:34,870 --> 01:10:33,360
you know not love it's or

1994
01:10:36,709 --> 01:10:34,880
getting for let's say it's further away

1995
01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:36,719
from love it's uh

1996
01:10:40,229 --> 01:10:38,719
desynchronizing with love well you know

1997
01:10:42,070 --> 01:10:40,239
whether it's like people are frustrated

1998
01:10:43,830 --> 01:10:42,080
all the time people angry all the time

1999
01:10:45,510 --> 01:10:43,840
people complaining all the time all the

2000
01:10:48,229 --> 01:10:45,520
stuff that we can do as humans we can

2001
01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:48,239
choose to be however we want to be um i

2002
01:10:53,350 --> 01:10:51,440
think that if for some weird reason it

2003
01:10:56,310 --> 01:10:53,360
it's in according to this current

2004
01:10:59,270 --> 01:10:56,320
manifestation of reality it seems to be

2005
01:11:00,790 --> 01:10:59,280
easier to complain and to be frustrated

2006
01:11:03,110 --> 01:11:00,800
and angry about stuff

2007
01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:03,120
uh and it's harder

2008
01:11:06,950 --> 01:11:04,960
to just be like you know what like i

2009
01:11:08,709 --> 01:11:06,960
think sarah silverman i watched a thing

2010
01:11:09,990 --> 01:11:08,719
on on instagram that she did she had

2011
01:11:12,630 --> 01:11:10,000
this realization that i thought was

2012
01:11:14,709 --> 01:11:12,640
pretty great where she she woke up and

2013
01:11:16,870 --> 01:11:14,719
this is probably you know some version

2014
01:11:19,350 --> 01:11:16,880
of this is in buddhist and taoists you

2015
01:11:21,189 --> 01:11:19,360
know uh writings but she woke up going

2016
01:11:23,030 --> 01:11:21,199
like god nothing matters everything

2017
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:23,040
sucks or whatever and and i understand

2018
01:11:26,310 --> 01:11:24,640
that that thinking like ah nothing

2019
01:11:27,669 --> 01:11:26,320
matters nothing better than you know why

2020
01:11:29,590 --> 01:11:27,679
are we even here what's blah blah blah

2021
01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:29,600
blah but then she kind of like took it

2022
01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:32,000
full circle and she was about to do a

2023
01:11:35,510 --> 01:11:33,920
show and she does kind of like what i

2024
01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:35,520
like to do before a show which is like

2025
01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:37,360
people say what do you do before show

2026
01:11:40,550 --> 01:11:38,960
and i'm like i don't do anything i just

2027
01:11:42,709 --> 01:11:40,560
like [\h__\h] around with people until it's

2028
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:42,719
absolutely time to get on stage and then

2029
01:11:46,390 --> 01:11:44,560
as i'm approaching the stage i say to

2030
01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:46,400
myself you know what now this [\h__\h]

2031
01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:47,760
matters

2032
01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:50,320
um and uh just [\h__\h] it

2033
01:11:54,310 --> 01:11:52,000
like that that's my attitude i go on

2034
01:11:56,950 --> 01:11:54,320
stage and i just go up there and i just

2035
01:11:58,310 --> 01:11:56,960
do what needs to happen in that moment

2036
01:12:00,149 --> 01:11:58,320
and um

2037
01:12:01,990 --> 01:12:00,159
and i think that

2038
01:12:03,350 --> 01:12:02,000
that's kind of the thing that you arrive

2039
01:12:05,430 --> 01:12:03,360
at when you're like oh all this [\h__\h]

2040
01:12:06,229 --> 01:12:05,440
that i'm so ugh

2041
01:12:08,149 --> 01:12:06,239
you know

2042
01:12:09,910 --> 01:12:08,159
i do it every day with the news cycle i

2043
01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:09,920
i need to take breaks i really honestly

2044
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:11,440
do but i'll do that with it because i'm

2045
01:12:15,189 --> 01:12:13,760
like no now it's just moving in the

2046
01:12:17,110 --> 01:12:15,199
wrong you know and then i'm just

2047
01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:17,120
thinking how does this

2048
01:12:22,709 --> 01:12:19,679
affect my general outlook in life like

2049
01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:22,719
am i really gonna like ruin my day

2050
01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:23,840
with

2051
01:12:27,990 --> 01:12:25,920
[\h__\h] that ultimately doesn't matter

2052
01:12:30,149 --> 01:12:28,000
because as long as i'm being the best

2053
01:12:32,070 --> 01:12:30,159
person i can be and i'm trying to

2054
01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:32,080
project that in the world around me

2055
01:12:35,910 --> 01:12:33,840
wherever i go i'm trying to do my best

2056
01:12:37,350 --> 01:12:35,920
wherever i go and other people are doing

2057
01:12:38,550 --> 01:12:37,360
that and we're recognizing that one

2058
01:12:40,390 --> 01:12:38,560
another it's like oh this person's

2059
01:12:42,310 --> 01:12:40,400
trying oh this person

2060
01:12:43,830 --> 01:12:42,320
helped this person with this thing yeah

2061
01:12:45,590 --> 01:12:43,840
they have totally different ideologies

2062
01:12:47,590 --> 01:12:45,600
but they both fixed that plank that was

2063
01:12:49,910 --> 01:12:47,600
loose in the fence you know like that's

2064
01:12:52,070 --> 01:12:49,920
these are these are things that i that i

2065
01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:52,080
that i live for in life and so

2066
01:12:55,270 --> 01:12:53,440
uh so

2067
01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:55,280
yeah i think that love is kind of

2068
01:12:58,870 --> 01:12:57,040
everything that's like the constant

2069
01:13:01,270 --> 01:12:58,880
that's there if we want to listen to it

2070
01:13:02,550 --> 01:13:01,280
but it's easy to forget and to get lost

2071
01:13:07,510 --> 01:13:02,560
into all the

2072
01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:07,520
life can feel like a constant crisis

2073
01:13:11,590 --> 01:13:09,440
or you can be in what i like to call a

2074
01:13:13,110 --> 01:13:11,600
solution based mind state which is like

2075
01:13:14,870 --> 01:13:13,120
you can be affected by something you can

2076
01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:14,880
take on you can process the emotion of

2077
01:13:17,510 --> 01:13:16,239
something

2078
01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:17,520
but

2079
01:13:20,310 --> 01:13:18,480
solve

2080
01:13:22,390 --> 01:13:20,320
create a solution so that that doesn't

2081
01:13:23,830 --> 01:13:22,400
occur again or

2082
01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:23,840
less likelihood you know of that

2083
01:13:27,030 --> 01:13:25,840
occurring but just being a solution

2084
01:13:28,390 --> 01:13:27,040
based because otherwise if we're all

2085
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:28,400
just like oh [\h__\h] everything sucks

2086
01:13:31,830 --> 01:13:29,600
everything's uh

2087
01:13:33,270 --> 01:13:31,840
it gets us nowhere and then we're 80

2088
01:13:35,030 --> 01:13:33,280
years old looking back on our lives

2089
01:13:37,030 --> 01:13:35,040
going like god i was really healthy and

2090
01:13:39,510 --> 01:13:37,040
i had a perfectly functioning body and

2091
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:39,520
look at all that time i wasted like

2092
01:13:42,950 --> 01:13:41,280
[\h__\h] around with me being just you

2093
01:13:43,750 --> 01:13:42,960
know disappointed about [\h__\h] when [\h__\h]

2094
01:13:45,270 --> 01:13:43,760
was

2095
01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:45,280
mostly fine

2096
01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:48,880
helping each other was the important

2097
01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:50,239
thing

2098
01:13:55,510 --> 01:13:53,280
i love that i absolutely love that um

2099
01:13:58,149 --> 01:13:55,520
well looking towards the future

2100
01:14:00,630 --> 01:13:58,159
reggie um you know where scientific

2101
01:14:03,270 --> 01:14:00,640
breakthroughs technology like you said

2102
01:14:05,990 --> 01:14:03,280
earlier um we had this huge boom back

2103
01:14:07,750 --> 01:14:06,000
during the industrial age obviously and

2104
01:14:09,590 --> 01:14:07,760
with space exploration and now we're

2105
01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:09,600
living in a world of you know where

2106
01:14:14,630 --> 01:14:11,600
quantum physics is becoming more of a

2107
01:14:16,070 --> 01:14:14,640
reality um and looking at the ufo topic

2108
01:14:17,910 --> 01:14:16,080
that way as well

2109
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:17,920
uh

2110
01:14:22,709 --> 01:14:19,920
with all of this happening at a rapid

2111
01:14:26,310 --> 01:14:22,719
pace do you think we'll ever truly know

2112
01:14:29,030 --> 01:14:26,320
what these ufos or uaps are

2113
01:14:30,709 --> 01:14:29,040
or represent do you have hope that we'll

2114
01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:30,719
ever know the truth about what all of

2115
01:14:34,310 --> 01:14:33,280
this stuff is or uh will it remain a

2116
01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:34,320
mystery

2117
01:14:39,510 --> 01:14:36,719
for forever i know you always say life

2118
01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:39,520
is you know always happening life just

2119
01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:42,400
keeps happening um yeah will we always

2120
01:14:47,430 --> 01:14:44,000
live in the mystery or will we get those

2121
01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:47,440
answers what do you personally feel

2122
01:14:53,510 --> 01:14:50,560
i i i think we will and on some level we

2123
01:14:55,669 --> 01:14:53,520
already know you know i i think you know

2124
01:14:56,630 --> 01:14:55,679
it's like um

2125
01:14:58,950 --> 01:14:56,640
but

2126
01:15:00,149 --> 01:14:58,960
it's nice to have that certainty you

2127
01:15:02,630 --> 01:15:00,159
know i mean i guess that's something

2128
01:15:04,790 --> 01:15:02,640
that we as humans we love we love like

2129
01:15:07,110 --> 01:15:04,800
knowing something you know we love us

2130
01:15:09,669 --> 01:15:07,120
certainty um but

2131
01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:09,679
i think that

2132
01:16:14,310 --> 01:15:10,560
i

2133
01:16:16,709 --> 01:16:14,320
observable um and

2134
01:16:18,630 --> 01:16:16,719
i think that we definitely will because

2135
01:16:21,430 --> 01:16:18,640
if it if it exists

2136
01:16:23,110 --> 01:16:21,440
then it's reproducible or it's

2137
01:16:26,229 --> 01:16:23,120
re-experienceable

2138
01:16:28,310 --> 01:16:26,239
um and there is an answer for its uh

2139
01:16:30,390 --> 01:16:28,320
existence because everything has a

2140
01:16:32,310 --> 01:16:30,400
everything has a place and everything is

2141
01:16:33,669 --> 01:16:32,320
useless simultaneously but i think you

2142
01:16:35,990 --> 01:16:33,679
know it's like

2143
01:16:38,149 --> 01:16:36,000
but but i mean without being cheeky i do

2144
01:16:40,229 --> 01:16:38,159
think that it is possible that we will

2145
01:16:41,910 --> 01:16:40,239
know what these things are because in a

2146
01:16:44,229 --> 01:16:41,920
way i think we kind of already do i

2147
01:16:45,910 --> 01:16:44,239
think that we're trying to match what we

2148
01:16:47,110 --> 01:16:45,920
think it is

2149
01:16:48,950 --> 01:16:47,120
uh with

2150
01:16:50,790 --> 01:16:48,960
what it could be and i think at a

2151
01:16:53,270 --> 01:16:50,800
certain point those things

2152
01:16:56,630 --> 01:16:53,280
those things will meet at a scale at

2153
01:17:00,470 --> 01:16:56,640
which we can all mostly

2154
01:17:05,270 --> 01:17:02,550
i love that yeah it's sort of a a

2155
01:17:07,270 --> 01:17:05,280
collective reality as it were um

2156
01:17:09,990 --> 01:17:07,280
i love that i love that man this this

2157
01:17:12,390 --> 01:17:10,000
conversation went in directions i wasn't

2158
01:17:13,510 --> 01:17:12,400
expecting that and i'm so happy it did

2159
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:13,520
um because

2160
01:17:17,590 --> 01:17:14,640
i thought we were going to talk about

2161
01:17:19,669 --> 01:17:17,600
presidents and ufos for like an hour

2162
01:17:22,229 --> 01:17:19,679
this has been such a rewarding

2163
01:17:24,149 --> 01:17:22,239
conversation for for me as a ufo

2164
01:17:25,910 --> 01:17:24,159
podcaster so um

2165
01:17:29,350 --> 01:17:25,920
obviously i want to thank you for giving

2166
01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:29,360
me way more time than i anticipated um

2167
01:17:34,870 --> 01:17:32,640
but lastly man obviously uh

2168
01:17:37,270 --> 01:17:34,880
can you tease anything you're up to um

2169
01:17:38,790 --> 01:17:37,280
that you're gonna be doing and uh where

2170
01:17:40,870 --> 01:17:38,800
can everyone find everything you're up

2171
01:17:42,790 --> 01:17:40,880
to

2172
01:17:44,870 --> 01:17:42,800
yeah i mean there's a few things up in

2173
01:17:46,709 --> 01:17:44,880
the air right now things being pitched

2174
01:17:48,870 --> 01:17:46,719
but i can say that generally like one

2175
01:17:51,430 --> 01:17:48,880
one is my my book is getting finished my

2176
01:17:53,750 --> 01:17:51,440
autobiography um

2177
01:17:56,790 --> 01:17:53,760
and uh that should be i don't know

2178
01:17:57,910 --> 01:17:56,800
hopefully out within less than a year um

2179
01:18:02,390 --> 01:17:57,920
so you'll hear about it it's called

2180
01:18:03,990 --> 01:18:02,400
great falls uh and uh and i have

2181
01:18:05,669 --> 01:18:04,000
a a couple of music shows that we're

2182
01:18:07,910 --> 01:18:05,679
gonna be pitching kind of getting back

2183
01:18:10,229 --> 01:18:07,920
to the roots of just having a show that

2184
01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:10,239
i'd be hosting and we'd be

2185
01:18:13,990 --> 01:18:11,199
we'd have

2186
01:18:16,310 --> 01:18:14,000
uh bands playing live on the show but up

2187
01:18:17,830 --> 01:18:16,320
and coming bands and um

2188
01:18:19,590 --> 01:18:17,840
and then of course the number one rule

2189
01:18:21,590 --> 01:18:19,600
to playing on the show is that you can

2190
01:18:23,430 --> 01:18:21,600
have no backing tracks

2191
01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:23,440
no computer with a space bar that you

2192
01:18:27,910 --> 01:18:25,440
hit it's all has to be played and

2193
01:18:31,590 --> 01:18:27,920
performed live um yeah so that and then

2194
01:18:35,350 --> 01:18:31,600
also a project that i'm doing with ai um

2195
01:18:38,950 --> 01:18:35,360
a show that i'll be uh creating um that

2196
01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:38,960
uh revolves around uh ai and its current

2197
01:18:44,709 --> 01:18:42,159
insane rapid implementation and

2198
01:18:46,470 --> 01:18:44,719
evolution

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01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:46,480
interesting oh that's a whole other

2200
01:18:50,310 --> 01:18:48,239
conversation we could have we'll have to

2201
01:18:53,189 --> 01:18:50,320
have you come back on sometime man

2202
01:18:56,149 --> 01:18:53,199
please um i know you're busy dude

2203
01:18:58,310 --> 01:18:56,159
well any time man i gotta thank you for

2204
01:19:02,149 --> 01:18:58,320
um accepting the invitation for coming

2205
01:19:04,310 --> 01:19:02,159
on a ufo podcast and again this is um a

2206
01:19:05,830 --> 01:19:04,320
very rewarding conversation for me so

2207
01:19:08,950 --> 01:19:05,840
thank you for joining me on summer in

2208
01:19:11,750 --> 01:19:08,960
the skies thanks mr sprague um and uh

2209
01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:11,760
enjoy scotland

2210
01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:14,000
cheers cheers to that buddy i'll

2211
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:16,080
i'll i'll tip back a scotch for you for

2212
01:19:18,070 --> 01:19:17,850
sure

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01:19:57,830 --> 01:19:18,080
[Applause]

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[Music]